He meant Ukraine is in Afghanistan-like disarray.
There were news about forced mobilization of ethnic Hungarians in Transcarpathia and high casualties among them.
If true, this would explain Orban's recent statement and actions.
[RD] Russia invades Ukraine V: The Turning Tide
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There were news about forced mobilization of ethnic Hungarians in Transcarpathia and high casualties among them.
If true, this would explain Orban's recent statement and actions.
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I doubt it - the European commission president is in Kiev now, just heard it on the radio,
I don't see her going to Kabul anytime soon, Orban is a bit of a drama queen
I don't see her going to Kabul anytime soon, Orban is a bit of a drama queen
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Orban is not too specific so I can't tell.
He seems to be saying that Putin has pretty much abandoned his previous efforts to try and win Ukraine by force, and so he is insisting on ruining it so the West cannot hope to govern it, e.g. Afghanistan. Which I guess is a strategy. Not sure what his troops think about that, oscillating between liberating their Ukranian brethren but destroying them if they refuse.
Viktor Orban: West Is 'In A War With Russia' - The American Conservative
Notes from a candid session with the antiwar Hungarian prime minister, who warns this conflict could easily get much worse
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Ziggy Stardust
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The idea of liberating their Ukrainian brethren is dead on arrival. Russian soldiers quickly realize liberation is not a goal, Ukrainians don't want them there. Those who are not at the front might have gathered that from Russia flattening Ukrainian cities arbitrarily and killing Ukrainians for close to a year.
They are already in the process of destroying them because they refused.
Austria at least expels some "diplomats"
https://news.yahoo.com/austria-expels-four-russian-envoys-084405531.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Judging from pre-Vrbetice Prague Vienna is full of Russian spies, dunno their influence now.
https://news.yahoo.com/austria-expels-four-russian-envoys-084405531.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
Judging from pre-Vrbetice Prague Vienna is full of Russian spies, dunno their influence now.
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Zardnaar
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Aussies are hard to understand best of times.
Akka
Moody old mage.
Funny how we keep hearing a deafening silence about all the war crimes commited by Russia, despite Russia being supposedly "in the right" because of supposed evil actions from Ukraine. Instead, now it's the usual refocus on how Ukraine is losing badly, as if (regardless of it true or not), losing was making Ukraine "wrong".
In fact, it reminds me exactly that :
As for the actual facts on the ground :
It's totally possible that Bakhmut will fall, due to Russian bullish relentlessness at attacking it and funneling insane amount of ressources on this front. Wagner forces were mostly depleted, the regular Russian army is replacing them to keep up the assault, and there are report of actual elite units taking the helm. The thing is, all this come at a high cost, and the big question mark is the ratio of casualties (with the significant caveat that Ukraine needs to sustain a 3 to 1 ratio to keep things equal, which certainly complicates the situation), but one thing certain is that Russia has suffered dreadful ones - we just don't know how much Ukraine has taken in exchange.
In fact, it reminds me exactly that :
Eerily adequate.
As for the actual facts on the ground :
It's totally possible that Bakhmut will fall, due to Russian bullish relentlessness at attacking it and funneling insane amount of ressources on this front. Wagner forces were mostly depleted, the regular Russian army is replacing them to keep up the assault, and there are report of actual elite units taking the helm. The thing is, all this come at a high cost, and the big question mark is the ratio of casualties (with the significant caveat that Ukraine needs to sustain a 3 to 1 ratio to keep things equal, which certainly complicates the situation), but one thing certain is that Russia has suffered dreadful ones - we just don't know how much Ukraine has taken in exchange.
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australian interviewee says the the donation of tanks is acknowledgement that Ukraine cannot hold...I would chalk it up to more like Western dithering about not wanting to be seen as trying to distract from domestic issues...
saamohod
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This silence gives very loud message about the pro-Russian posters characters in this thread.
Akka
Moody old mage.
Let's put things in perspective. The guy who made this video also posted this in early september :
And this two months ago :
Let's say I would take his predictions with a huge grain of salt.
At the very least, it's acknowledgement that the previous donations were insufficient and that the West run out of Soviet models to donate.
I don't see a point in discussing allegations about Russian war crimes in Western press, as reports in Russian press about Ukrainian war crimes were repeatedly dismissed and branded as Russian propaganda or false flag.
Zardnaar
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Difference is government doesn't directly control media in ze west.
And some cases of Ukraine crimes have made it in the west.
You're always gonna get war crines even in best trained armies. The scake and frequency is the kicker.
A sniper description of the Russian's tactic around Bakhmut.
www.theglobeandmail.com
Canadian sniper in Ukraine describes Russians’ stubborn advance in Bakhmut
Codenamed Teflon, this Alberta-born veteran recounts how he shot at wave after wave of Russian troops in their Christmas assault on an eastern Ukrainian city
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it's not like it doesn't "work": keep sending men forward until you are sure of the highest area of enemy concentration needed to finally send in your tanks (and maybe artillery). this is judged by the number of dead Russians.
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A sniper description of the Russian's tactic around Bakhmut.
Canadian sniper in Ukraine describes Russians’ stubborn advance in Bakhmut
Codenamed Teflon, this Alberta-born veteran recounts how he shot at wave after wave of Russian troops in their Christmas assault on an eastern Ukrainian city
Heh claims about Westeen mercenaries you get twice that working at McDonald's
saamohod
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Literally outstanding
Akka
Moody old mage.
The West : BBC literally checks and validates the video of PoW being shot in the knees by Ukrainians.
Russia : people are literally arrested for holding a blank paper and laws literally forbids to say anything against Russian army. Stories about bioengineered soldiers, USA biological weapons laboratory hidden in Ukraine, covid-carried pigeons targeting Russia !
red_elk : I'm going to ignore all Russian war crimes because you act as if Russian press is propaganda.
amadeus
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They have absolutely zero moral standing on any matter, anywhere, at any time. They can go take a long walk off a short pier.
What always amazes me is the incredible doublethinking abilities of the Americans.
They can bash Russia for military aggression, in the same time acknowledge that their country murdered literally millions of civilians in military adventures.
And in the same time claim moral highground over China which has done nothing of the sort since Sino-Vietnamese conflict.
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