[RD] Russia invades Ukraine V: The Turning Tide

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One could say the fact there is still an independent Ukraine after a year of war is a victory in itself, that was not expected when this started..

Ukraine has established itself as a serious nation state, RF has shown itself as somewhat of a paper tiger, in a conflict with NATO they would not last long.

They waved the nuclear card already after 3 days of war.

Putin’s reluctance to take risks directly related to his conventional war in Ukraine indicates that he remains highly unlikely to pursue nuclear escalation or war with NATO. ISW previously assessed that Russian conventional war threats against NATO do not correspond with Russia’s capabilities and that Russia uses nuclear threats primarily to intimidate the West.[23] Putin evidently values his domestic status quo and seeks to avoid risky and controversial policies to support his own aims. Putin also continues to demonstrate that he remains a calculated individual who places considerable emphasis on eliminating risks—even while his perception of the situation he faces diverges from reality.

 
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Oil depot and a factory producing metal constructs for the Kerch bridge repairs both engulfed in flames in Belgoror. Unclear if it's a false flag to be able to ramp up the "terrorist" threat to clamp down on opposition, internal sabotage, or Ukrainian sabotage.
 
Iran Sets Plan for Drone Factory in Russia
BY DION NISSENBAUM AND WARREN P. STROBEL

Moscow and Tehran are moving ahead with plans to build a new factory in Russia that could make at least 6,000 Iranian-designed drones for the war in Ukraine, the latest sign of deepening cooperation between the two nations, said officials from a country aligned with the U.S. As part of their emerging military alliance, the officials said, a high-level Iranian delegation flew to Russia in early January to visit the planned site for the factory and hammer out details to get the project up-and-running. The two countries are aiming to build a faster drone that could pose new challenges for Ukrainian air defenses, the officials said.

Tehran has already provided Moscow with hundreds of drones it has used to hit military and civilian targets in Ukraine, U.S. officials have said. And the Biden administration has warned that Russia and Iran are developing a “fullfledged defense partnership.” The White House says Moscow was training Iranian pilots to fly Russian jet fighters, with the intent of sending Tehran those jets by year’s end. In December, the White House warned that Moscow and Tehran were considering whether to build a joint drone-production line in Russia.

Now, the U.S.-aligned officials said, the talks have morphed into concrete plans with the Jan. 5 visit to the Russian town of Yelabuga, about 600 miles east of Moscow. They toured the empty site where leaders from the two nations are planning to build a new factory that can produce at least 6,000 drones in the coming years, they said.

The officials said the Iranian delegation was led by Brig. Gen. Abdollah Mehrabi, head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force Research and Self-Sufficiency Jihad Organization, and Ghassem Damavandian, the chief executive of Iran’s Quds Aviation Industry, a key defense manufacturer that the U.S. says is central to developing and building the country’s drones. Russian and Iranian officials didn’t respond to requests for comment. So far, Iran has provided Russia mostly with so-called suicide drones, known as the Shahed-136, that contain a modest amount of explosives that detonate when the unmanned vehicles crash into their targets, U.S. and Ukrainian officials say.

Russia has used the drones to target Ukraine’s power grid in an attempt to cripple the country’s electricity supply during the cold winter and undermine morale. Over time, Ukraine’s air defenses have succeeded in largely neutralizing the drone threat. The Shahed- 136 is a slow-moving and loud drone with propeller engines, making it relatively easy to spot and shoot down. Ukraine has shot down more than 540 drones since they started appearing over the country’s skies last fall, according to the nation’s air force.

Now, the officials said, Iran is working with Russia to develop a Shahed-136 model expected to include a new engine to make it fly faster and farther. The new factory would produce the advanced drone. That could pose new challenges for Ukraine and other nations that could be targets for the drones. Ground hasn’t been broken on the factory, so the production line isn’t expected to have an immediate impact on the balance of power in Ukraine, where signs point to Russia mounting a new offensive in the coming weeks. The drone factory is part of a $1 billion deal between Russia and Moscow, the officials said. Moscow has provided Iran with weapons seized on the battlefield in Ukraine that they are trying to reverse-engineer, the officials said.
The U.S. has warned that


A drone over Kyiv in October. Iran has provided Russia with so-called suicide drones to attack Ukraine. YASUYOSHI CHIBA/ AGENCE FRANCE- PRESSE/ GETTY IMAGES

Iran has agreed to provide Moscow with ballistic missiles. So far, U.S. and allied officials said, there is no indication that Tehran has sent such missiles to Russia.
Russia and Iran continue to develop closer ties on various fronts. The two countries recently connected their inter-bank payment messaging systems, paving the way for all Iranian banks to transact with Russian lenders. Both countries face international sanctions on their banking industries.

On Jan. 6, the day after Iranian officials flew to Russia to discuss the drone factory, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Mr. Damavandian, the Iranian aviation executive accused by America of overseeing Iran’s supply of drones to Russia and training of Russian forces to use the weapons. The U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Gen. Mehrabi in 2021, when America accused the Iranian military commander of building and buying engines for the country’s fleet of unmanned vehicles.
—Benoit Faucon, Ann M.

Simmons and Aresu Eqbali contributed to this article.
 
Iran Sets Plan for Drone Factory in Russia
BY DION NISSENBAUM AND WARREN P. STROBEL

Moscow and Tehran are moving ahead with plans to build a new factory in Russia that could make at least 6,000 Iranian-designed drones for the war in Ukraine, the latest sign of deepening cooperation between the two nations, said officials from a country aligned with the U.S. As part of their emerging military alliance, the officials said, a high-level Iranian delegation flew to Russia in early January to visit the planned site for the factory and hammer out details to get the project up-and-running. The two countries are aiming to build a faster drone that could pose new challenges for Ukrainian air defenses, the officials said.

Tehran has already provided Moscow with hundreds of drones it has used to hit military and civilian targets in Ukraine, U.S. officials have said. And the Biden administration has warned that Russia and Iran are developing a “fullfledged defense partnership.” The White House says Moscow was training Iranian pilots to fly Russian jet fighters, with the intent of sending Tehran those jets by year’s end. In December, the White House warned that Moscow and Tehran were considering whether to build a joint drone-production line in Russia.

Now, the U.S.-aligned officials said, the talks have morphed into concrete plans with the Jan. 5 visit to the Russian town of Yelabuga, about 600 miles east of Moscow. They toured the empty site where leaders from the two nations are planning to build a new factory that can produce at least 6,000 drones in the coming years, they said.

The officials said the Iranian delegation was led by Brig. Gen. Abdollah Mehrabi, head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force Research and Self-Sufficiency Jihad Organization, and Ghassem Damavandian, the chief executive of Iran’s Quds Aviation Industry, a key defense manufacturer that the U.S. says is central to developing and building the country’s drones. Russian and Iranian officials didn’t respond to requests for comment. So far, Iran has provided Russia mostly with so-called suicide drones, known as the Shahed-136, that contain a modest amount of explosives that detonate when the unmanned vehicles crash into their targets, U.S. and Ukrainian officials say.

Russia has used the drones to target Ukraine’s power grid in an attempt to cripple the country’s electricity supply during the cold winter and undermine morale. Over time, Ukraine’s air defenses have succeeded in largely neutralizing the drone threat. The Shahed- 136 is a slow-moving and loud drone with propeller engines, making it relatively easy to spot and shoot down. Ukraine has shot down more than 540 drones since they started appearing over the country’s skies last fall, according to the nation’s air force.

Now, the officials said, Iran is working with Russia to develop a Shahed-136 model expected to include a new engine to make it fly faster and farther. The new factory would produce the advanced drone. That could pose new challenges for Ukraine and other nations that could be targets for the drones. Ground hasn’t been broken on the factory, so the production line isn’t expected to have an immediate impact on the balance of power in Ukraine, where signs point to Russia mounting a new offensive in the coming weeks. The drone factory is part of a $1 billion deal between Russia and Moscow, the officials said. Moscow has provided Iran with weapons seized on the battlefield in Ukraine that they are trying to reverse-engineer, the officials said.
The U.S. has warned that


A drone over Kyiv in October. Iran has provided Russia with so-called suicide drones to attack Ukraine. YASUYOSHI CHIBA/ AGENCE FRANCE- PRESSE/ GETTY IMAGES

Iran has agreed to provide Moscow with ballistic missiles. So far, U.S. and allied officials said, there is no indication that Tehran has sent such missiles to Russia.
Russia and Iran continue to develop closer ties on various fronts. The two countries recently connected their inter-bank payment messaging systems, paving the way for all Iranian banks to transact with Russian lenders. Both countries face international sanctions on their banking industries.

On Jan. 6, the day after Iranian officials flew to Russia to discuss the drone factory, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Mr. Damavandian, the Iranian aviation executive accused by America of overseeing Iran’s supply of drones to Russia and training of Russian forces to use the weapons. The U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Gen. Mehrabi in 2021, when America accused the Iranian military commander of building and buying engines for the country’s fleet of unmanned vehicles.
—Benoit Faucon, Ann M.

Simmons and Aresu Eqbali contributed to this article.

Getting a factory up isn't a matter of days or months. I don't see it producing anything until 2025 at earliest.

Assuming Mossad doesn't blow it up. They're not fond of Iranians setting up drone factories...
 
Iran Sets Plan for Drone Factory in Russia
BY DION NISSENBAUM AND WARREN P. STROBEL

Moscow and Tehran are moving ahead with plans to build a new factory in Russia that could make at least 6,000 Iranian-designed drones for the war in Ukraine, the latest sign of deepening cooperation between the two nations, said officials from a country aligned with the U.S. As part of their emerging military alliance, the officials said, a high-level Iranian delegation flew to Russia in early January to visit the planned site for the factory and hammer out details to get the project up-and-running. The two countries are aiming to build a faster drone that could pose new challenges for Ukrainian air defenses, the officials said.

Tehran has already provided Moscow with hundreds of drones it has used to hit military and civilian targets in Ukraine, U.S. officials have said. And the Biden administration has warned that Russia and Iran are developing a “fullfledged defense partnership.” The White House says Moscow was training Iranian pilots to fly Russian jet fighters, with the intent of sending Tehran those jets by year’s end. In December, the White House warned that Moscow and Tehran were considering whether to build a joint drone-production line in Russia.

Now, the U.S.-aligned officials said, the talks have morphed into concrete plans with the Jan. 5 visit to the Russian town of Yelabuga, about 600 miles east of Moscow. They toured the empty site where leaders from the two nations are planning to build a new factory that can produce at least 6,000 drones in the coming years, they said.

The officials said the Iranian delegation was led by Brig. Gen. Abdollah Mehrabi, head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force Research and Self-Sufficiency Jihad Organization, and Ghassem Damavandian, the chief executive of Iran’s Quds Aviation Industry, a key defense manufacturer that the U.S. says is central to developing and building the country’s drones. Russian and Iranian officials didn’t respond to requests for comment. So far, Iran has provided Russia mostly with so-called suicide drones, known as the Shahed-136, that contain a modest amount of explosives that detonate when the unmanned vehicles crash into their targets, U.S. and Ukrainian officials say.

Russia has used the drones to target Ukraine’s power grid in an attempt to cripple the country’s electricity supply during the cold winter and undermine morale. Over time, Ukraine’s air defenses have succeeded in largely neutralizing the drone threat. The Shahed- 136 is a slow-moving and loud drone with propeller engines, making it relatively easy to spot and shoot down. Ukraine has shot down more than 540 drones since they started appearing over the country’s skies last fall, according to the nation’s air force.

Now, the officials said, Iran is working with Russia to develop a Shahed-136 model expected to include a new engine to make it fly faster and farther. The new factory would produce the advanced drone. That could pose new challenges for Ukraine and other nations that could be targets for the drones. Ground hasn’t been broken on the factory, so the production line isn’t expected to have an immediate impact on the balance of power in Ukraine, where signs point to Russia mounting a new offensive in the coming weeks. The drone factory is part of a $1 billion deal between Russia and Moscow, the officials said. Moscow has provided Iran with weapons seized on the battlefield in Ukraine that they are trying to reverse-engineer, the officials said.
The U.S. has warned that


A drone over Kyiv in October. Iran has provided Russia with so-called suicide drones to attack Ukraine. YASUYOSHI CHIBA/ AGENCE FRANCE- PRESSE/ GETTY IMAGES

Iran has agreed to provide Moscow with ballistic missiles. So far, U.S. and allied officials said, there is no indication that Tehran has sent such missiles to Russia.
Russia and Iran continue to develop closer ties on various fronts. The two countries recently connected their inter-bank payment messaging systems, paving the way for all Iranian banks to transact with Russian lenders. Both countries face international sanctions on their banking industries.

On Jan. 6, the day after Iranian officials flew to Russia to discuss the drone factory, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Mr. Damavandian, the Iranian aviation executive accused by America of overseeing Iran’s supply of drones to Russia and training of Russian forces to use the weapons. The U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Gen. Mehrabi in 2021, when America accused the Iranian military commander of building and buying engines for the country’s fleet of unmanned vehicles.
—Benoit Faucon, Ann M.

Simmons and Aresu Eqbali contributed to this article.

And so the US reaps the harvest of its insane policy toward Iran...
 
Oil depot and a factory producing metal constructs for the Kerch bridge repairs both engulfed in flames in Belgoror. Unclear if it's a false flag to be able to ramp up the "terrorist" threat to clamp down on opposition, internal sabotage, or Ukrainian sabotage.

 
And so the US reaps the harvest of its insane policy toward Iran...

US elected Trump
who was against anything that Obama was for

Iran isnt exactly a good regime by all accounts, Id imagine that murdering women on the street would signal what kind of regime we are dealing with
 
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US elected Trump
who was against anything that Obama was for

Iran isnt exactly a good regime by all accounts, Id imagine that murdering women on the street would signal what kind of regime we are dealing with

Lmao, pay no attention to what happens to women in Saudi Arabia, a democratic paradise with truly massive amounts of freedom and justice.

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what, that the US doesn't give full deference to the guys who captured their embassy and then went on to persecute their own people?
I'm shaking like a leaf

yeah, this is rather what i'm talking about: this is geopolitics, not you plotting revenge against your fellow five-year-olds because they said something mean to you over by the swings.

the US would have done better to stick to the nuclear deal and trying to cultivate a more normal relationship with Iran (which would, incidentally, only help weaken the political position of the right-wing religious hardliners who control the country, and who use enmity with the US as one of the major justifications for their rule).

After breaking that deal and assassinating an Iranian general why wouldn't Iran aid Russia here? My point is this probably could have been prevented if Donald Trump wasn't a moron but here we are.
 
Lmao, pay no attention to what happens to women in Saudi Arabia, a democratic paradise with truly massive amounts of freedom and justice.

Duh Saudi allied themselves with Wahabism and with that violent terrorism
Who are pretending otherwise here ?
 
Leopard1s practically obsolete, At least they come with NV, and would do reasonably well as SPGs
Some commentors mention that they would mostly be facing infantry but the thin lower plate and side armour make them rather vulrenable as Germans expect them to be used mostly in a defensive role

 
Leopard1s practically obsolete, At least they come with NV, and would do reasonably well as SPGs
Some commentors mention that they would mostly be facing infantry but the thin lower plate and side armour make them rather vulrenable as Germans expect them to be used mostly in a defensive role


Leopard 1 was designed for the defensive. Modern M18 hellcat it's armor is butter.
 
Fully upgraded T-55's are almost unrecognizable.
 
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