If you were a nice lady, I would pick you up on that.
Ivan doesn't care who you are, when he drops the big one.
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Russia Tests New Nanotech Vacuum Bomb On 11 September - Symbolic Statement
- Thread starter Provolution
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Ivan doesn't care who you are, when he drops the big one.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Sorry....post deleted cause I misread the post.
Pasi Nurminen
Deity
So have the Russians, the point which you manage to miss is that this is the most powerful of its type. It would be like the Americans rolling out a 200 megaton nuclear weapon.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
It is indeed new technology. This is a nanotech bomb, no environmental harm but the CO2 emissions and the disruption of material.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Ah...no...it isnt. Again, please enlighten me on how nanotechnology makes any difference in this in the very least......
I bet the russians have just used the word as a catch phrase in order to facilitate foreign interest in it for arms sales.
Pasi Nurminen
Deity
Ah...no...it wouldnt. Nice try though.
I'll take your complete lack of any response as conceding that you're wrong.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Trust me, they will not sell this, then you don't know the Russians. OSSE would also verify this.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
One. The russians would sell their own grandmothers if they exploded and they could make a profit off it.
Two. I just noticed something......you mentioned the nanotech in the thread title....however, there isnt a single reference to nanotechnology in the entire story you linked to.
So where is the nanotech? Or did you just add that in so the story appeared more sexy?
There is also no reference to nanotech being used in it in the Reuters story either. I think we need to call bs on this one.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Do some research on your own. I got some newsstories and other articles here.
Hey, gotta make 'em scary.
Yes, I'm sure it will be a successful debate technique: Tell your opponents to dig out the facts that support you. Excellent. Now please learn to present proof while starting the thread, not after.
You're right! Both are pretty much useless and overhyped wastes of funds!
Honestly, what does Russia expect to do with this that they can't do with existing weapons? And what in the world would the US do with a 200 megaton bomb that we couldn't do without our existing nuclear arsenal? No one is going to roll over and surrender just because now we can blow them up with one bomb instead of 100 out of our thousands.
I'm still not seeing why I should be scared by the Russians having a weapon that explodes like 44 tons of TNT when they've had weapons that explode 1000 times more powerful for decades. They aren't going to use it on the US, or anyone for that matter - so why worry?
Could you perhaps define "nanotech"* and explain how this is a new technology, instead of just saying that it is and expecting us to take your word for it? Maybe sharing some of those "newsstories and other articles" you claim to have on the subject?
*I assume you don't mean that it uses nano-machines, or anything of that sort, which is typically what people think of when you used that word.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Pasi, I know you love all things russian, but come on....this isnt the equivalent of a strategic nuclear weapon....in fact, its barely the equivalent of a tactical nuclear weapon, and we have had similar weapons on hand for decades.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Classic. You link a reference with no mention of nanotech...and then you tout it heavily in the thread...and then say this? You need to stop perusing the fantasy section for your facts.
Yup....break out the boots boys...its thick on the floor here today.
Russian nanotech has nothing on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
Pasi Nurminen
Deity
As usual, you completely missed the analogy. I'll make another, since you didn't get it the first time around.
If the fastest car on the market could do 150 km/h, company N unveils a car that could do 180 km/h. It's practically useless because you would have to break the law and face a hefty fine to actually use it, but it's a boast nonetheless, the new zenith of a pissing contest.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Perhaps the Russians should let us know we were having a pissing contest over FAE bombs.......
Because, as Elrohir pointed out, the unveiling of this is pretty much ho-humsville in comparison to the nuclear stockpile we already have.
In your analogy that would be the equivalent of the russians unveiling their 180 km/h car in order to compete with our jetplanes traveling several times faster....
Again...who cares?
And again...where is the nanotech?
warpus
Sommerswerd asked me to change this
From what I've been reading this one is 4-6 times as powerful as anything you guys have.
Which.. makes me just go.. "who cares?"
this isn't a pissing contest
Kozmos
Jew Detective
I agree no mention of nanotech in either articles. Provolution fails.
And MobbBoss I know you like to show off US tech but come on the Davy Crockett aint nothing the russkies dont have. That said....Remember the Alamo.
And MobbBoss I know you like to show off US tech but come on the Davy Crockett aint nothing the russkies dont have. That said....Remember the Alamo.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Our FAEs were primarily designed to clear minefields via the over-pressure factor of the munition. It didnt work that great so the military is actually getting rid of most of them.
Bottom line, we have better munitions to flatten a bunch of buildings.
I agree with you...who cares.
You are not impressed with my offer of the vaunted 1950s American nano-tech in action? BAH!
