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Russia shuts off gas to Ukraine

Russia has stopped all gas supplies to Ukraine after the collapse of talks to end a row over unpaid bills and prices.

Russia's gas giant Gazprom said it turned off the taps at 0700 GMT, when its contract to supply Ukraine ended.

Ukraine insists it has paid off its debts to Gazprom, but Russia contests this. The two countries have also failed to agree on a price for 2009.

Both Russia and Ukraine insist that gas supplies transported via Ukraine to the European Union will continue as normal.

There have been fears that the row could lead to energy shortages in Europe, as pipes across Ukraine carry about a fifth of the EU's gas needs.

A similar row between Gazprom and Ukraine at the beginning of 2006 led to gas shortages in several EU countries.

The European Commission said Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko had given her assurances that there would be "no disruption of gas supplies to clients in the European Union".


An official at Gazprom's headquarters in Moscow said: "We have fully cut off supplies to Ukraine as of 10am (0700 GMT) today."

"Usually we supply 390 million cubic metres per day, of which 300 million is transit gas for Europe. Today supplies are running at 300 million cubic metres. We continue supplying Europe in full," Reuters quoted him as saying.

Ukraine's state energy firm Naftogaz confirmed that supplies had dropped off steadily, and said it would start pumping gas from its reserves.

Ukraine says it has built up enough reserves to see it through the next few months.

'Eager for conflict'

"The debt to Gazprom for gas supplied earlier was not paid. Despite verbal statements from Kiev, Gazprom did not see any money in its account," said Gazprom's chief executive Alexei Miller said.

He criticised Ukraine's stance during the negotiations as "unconstructive", and said Gazprom had no legal reason to continue supplying gas to Ukraine.

Mr Miller said the contract to supply gas depended on the full settlement of £2bn in gas bills and late-payment fines levied by Gazprom.

He also suggested that Kiev was seeking to provoke a wider dispute, saying he was "forming the impression that there are political forces in Ukraine which are very eager to see a gas conflict between our two countries".


Naftogaz said it has paid $1.5bn (£1bn) in outstanding bills to RosUkrEnergo - a Switzerland-registered gas trading company which is acting as an intermediary - but not the fines imposed by Gazprom.

Gazprom is the world's largest gas producer and supplies a quarter of the European Union's gas needs - and 42% of its imports. Most of that is transported via Ukraine.

Russia's Vladimir Putin had earlier warned Ukraine not to disrupt the transit of gas to Europe.

He warned of "very severe consequences" for Ukraine in terms of its relations with both Russia and European countries.


Mr Putin said Gazprom had been generous in offering Ukraine a price of $250 per 1,000 cubic metres of gas in 2009, given that the price in Europe was currently more than $500.

He said he understood that Ukraine was in "a difficult economic situation" which was worse than Russia's, but put the dispute down to a "war of the clans" between the Ukrainian Prime Minister, Yulia Tymoshenko, and President Viktor Yushchenko.

Before someone tells me I am biased against Russia, I don't think it's entirely Russian fault, Ukrainians have been pretty stubborn lately.

OTOH, Russia is clearly taking advantage of the economic crisis in Ukraine to exert pressure on the Ukrainian government hoping that the EU will force Ukraine to comply.
 
Russia's gas giant Gazprom said it turned off the taps at 0700 GMT, when its contract to supply Ukraine ended.

If this is true then there's not much of a story is there?

Also note, that Ukraine is still paying considerably less for gas than the EU so it is clear that Gazprom will want to raise prices.
 
If Ukraine doesn't want to pay the price then it doesn't get gas, I don't see what so difficult here.
 
It's not so simple.

Ukraine is very dependant on Russian gas, that's a legacy of the Soviet Union. Also, Ukraine is a major transit country so it should be treated differently that Western European consumers. Russians used to respect that and was offering favourable terms to Ukraine. That changed when Ukraine decided to democratize and approach the EU.

Ukraine is going through a transformation and the Russians are using gas dependance to undermine it.
 
It's not so simple.

Ukraine is very dependant on Russian gas, that's a legacy of the Soviet Union. Also, Ukraine is a major transit country so it should be treated differently that Western European consumers. Russians used to respect that and was offering favourable terms to Ukraine. That changed when Ukraine decided to democratize and approach the EU.

Ukraine is going through a transformation and the Russians are using gas dependance to undermine it.

I'm sure that Ukraine gets paid for any gas transit.

And really what do you expect - Ukraine heading away politically from Russia but still getting the buddy benefits?
 
We've had this discussion before. Same conditions, same quarrels. Same result? I hope so.
 
I'm sure that Ukraine gets paid for any gas transit.

And really what do you expect - Ukraine heading away politically from Russia but still getting the buddy benefits?

Then why the Russians don't agree on a long term treaty? They want to renegotiate it almost every year to keep Ukraine under constant pressure.
 
Turning off the gas in the middle of the winter because a country want to maintain independent foreign policy seems pretty immoral to me.

I am sure they have reserves. If they can't handle it - let US ship the oil.
 
Turning off the gas in the middle of the winter because a country want to maintain independent foreign policy seems pretty immoral to me.

Ok I guess you're right, but this has nothing to do with Russia or the Ukraine but everything with to do with the capitalist system they have both adopted.

Noone expects a baker to give a hungry man a loaf of bread either...
 
No, I expect a baker to bake bread and charities to provide bread to hungry people.
When they spit at his face and make plans with his neighbouring thug to burn the guys bakery?
 
Yay, Ukrainians want to destroy you, surely they're planning an attack, Barbarossa style.

Or whatever your paranoid mind can imagine...
 
Turning off the gas in the middle of the winter because a country wants to maintain independent foreign policy seems pretty immoral to me.

Russia is not a charity. It has no obligation to provide cheap gas to unfriendly nations. if Ukraine wants the gas it can pay the higher price for it, its not particularly unreasonable.
 
Yay, Ukrainians want to destroy you, surely they're planning an attack, Barbarossa style.
Not Ukraine. Ukrainian government, some Ukraininan people, Georgian leadership, some members of the EU chiely US. The rest are quite sane.
 
Russia is not a charity. It has no obligation to provide cheap gas to unfriendly nations. if Ukraine wants the gas it can pay the higher price for it, its not particularly unreasonable.

In that case I hope Ukraine salvages all of the piping infrastructure running to Europe and leaves Russia afloat in its ass smelling natural gas.
 
Ok I guess you're right, but this has nothing to do with Russia or the Ukraine but everything with to do with the capitalist system they have both adopted.

Noone expects a baker to give a hungry man a loaf of bread either...

Russia is not a charity. It has no obligation to provide cheap gas to unfriendly nations. if Ukraine wants the gas it can pay the higher price for it, its not particularly unreasonable.

In my view, this is a dealer-addict situation. First Russia made Ukraine dependant on its gas (either by means of central planning during the soviet times or low gas prices in the post-soviet era). Now, when the addict can't live without it, the dealer is taking advantage of the situation. In this case he wants the addicted girl to be his slut.

Capitalism? It's more like serfdom.

But again, I don't blame solely the Russians, Ukraine needs to adapt, by the terms of my analogy it needs to recover from its addiction. EU should help and act as a mediator between Russia and Ukraine.
 
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