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Saddam on trial - when, were and for what?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by vonork, Dec 14, 2003.

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Who must judge Saddam ?

  1. The People of Iraq in Baghdad

    40 vote(s)
    41.2%
  2. The USA in Washington

    3 vote(s)
    3.1%
  3. The International Criminal Court in the Hague

    21 vote(s)
    21.6%
  4. The People of Iraq then confirmed by Washington

    6 vote(s)
    6.2%
  5. The People of Iraq then confirmed by the Hague

    17 vote(s)
    17.5%
  6. He shouldn't be judged

    4 vote(s)
    4.1%
  7. Don't know

    1 vote(s)
    1.0%
  8. Other solutions

    5 vote(s)
    5.2%
  1. cgannon64

    cgannon64 BOB DYLAN'S ROCKIN OUT!

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    International Criminal Court. Its what they were created for.
     
  2. amadeus

    amadeus Kaicho

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    Letting the ICC have Hussein would be a disaster.

    Just see how that SOB Melosevic is playing his little circus games there.
     
  3. Archer 007

    Archer 007 Rebirth

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    Everyone deserves a fair trial. He'll be found guility no matter what, so why not give him a fair trial? We would really be hurting ourselves to not give him a fair trial, as it would subvert the entire concept of democracy.
     
  4. Bozo Erectus

    Bozo Erectus Master Baker

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    It would be cool if Saddam decided to handle his own defence and acted like a crazy homeless guy throughout the whole trial:lol:
     
  5. ShiplordAtvar

    ShiplordAtvar Texan by the grace of God

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    Let the people of Iraq give him a fair trial, then run him through a delicatessan's meat slicer.
     
  6. Lefty Scaevola

    Lefty Scaevola Moderatus Illuminatus Super Moderator

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    The vast majority of war crimminals are tried in national courts, not international ones. Each nation against which (or their citzens) he has commited warcrimes or crimes against humanity have jurisdiction.
     
  7. Marla_Singer

    Marla_Singer United in diversity

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    At least, Milosevic is in jail and not under coconuts as a refugee in Barbados.

    I personally voted for a trial made by the Iraqis in Baghdad and then confirmed by the ICC.
     
  8. Archer 007

    Archer 007 Rebirth

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    What benifit do they get by holding the trial?
    Saddam has the right to fair trial, not matter what anyone says. Its like if we would have captured Hitler alive, he would be found guility either way, so why not do it in a matter that follows the democratic notion? Letting the Iraqs try Saddam makes us lower then he is, because not only are we playing his own tactics, we would be being hypocrites about it. Im glad the US military has not made a final decesion about the trial venue yet.
     
  9. Simon Darkshade

    Simon Darkshade Mysterious City of Gold

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    You mean exactly like Slobo is doing, but with less sartorial elegance?
     
  10. amadeus

    amadeus Kaicho

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    When did the ICC become so important? They never did a thing to solve the problems, they just gobble up everything afterwards.
     
  11. Kentonio

    Kentonio Monkey Lord of Civ III

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    Dont send him to the Hague for Gods sake, the trial would drag on for about 20 years and he'd end up under permanent house arrest with a jacuzzi and cable.
     
  12. Kentonio

    Kentonio Monkey Lord of Civ III

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    Erm, what? Letting the Iraqis try their own former leader for crimes against them would make us lower than he is? Did the missing WMD end up in your local drinking water or something Archer? :rolleyes:
     
  13. Lefty Scaevola

    Lefty Scaevola Moderatus Illuminatus Super Moderator

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    Wrong
    By its own charter, the ICC is only for situations where there is no other useful forum willing to try a case. There are plenty of courts, now and soon some more, willing to try Saddam. Iraq jusridictions have to most crimes to go over, then Iran and Kuwati ones, after that various coallition mebers from both gulf wars. Each can have their crack at him in turn, for the respective crimes over which they have jusidiction. Thats is the real war of law on warcrimes.
     
  14. Archer 007

    Archer 007 Rebirth

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    They give reasonable trials to war criminals. The US just downplays that since they dont want to have officials tried in the case if we were to commit war crimes.
     
  15. Archer 007

    Archer 007 Rebirth

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    It is unreasonable to resort to personal attacks.

    If we want the Iraqis to try to him, try not skip the trial phase and go straight to the execution. It would save us alot of time. You dont think he has the right to a fair trial?
     
  16. SeleucusNicator

    SeleucusNicator Diadoch

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    It would be the same as the US recognizing the ICC. US recognition and cooperation is something that the ICC lacks, and that makes it all the less legitimate.

    Allowing Saddam to be tried in Iraq would be a huge propaganda victory for the Bush administration and the occupation in general. It give the appearence of a return of Iraqi sovereignty, or at least a devolution of power.
     
  17. Hygro

    Hygro soundcloud.com/hygro/

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    They arent made to solve the problems. They are designed simply to be a court, not the full justice system.

    I voted as Marla did.
     
  18. Intruder13

    Intruder13 Pave the way

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    I concur!
     
  19. Bozo Erectus

    Bozo Erectus Master Baker

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    He should get a thorough trial for no other reason than posterity. We owe it to the historical record to lay out all of his crimes in excrutiating detail. Fair trial? Fair schmair, the guys going to be executed as soon as possible. I give him at most 3 years before he's put in front of a firing squad.
     
  20. amadeus

    amadeus Kaicho

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    Our soldiers spend sweat and blood to capture this man, and then people want him turned over to a bunch of wishy-washy double-crossing back-stabbing UN weasel bureaucrats?
     

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