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Savage banned from UK for.........

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Death_Machine, May 6, 2009.

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What is your reaction to Savage being banned from the UK?

  1. Speech should not be punished.

    47 vote(s)
    32.6%
  2. He deserves to be banned.

    28 vote(s)
    19.4%
  3. Who is Mike Savage?

    39 vote(s)
    27.1%
  4. I don't give a damn.

    30 vote(s)
    20.8%
  1. ComradeDavo

    ComradeDavo Formerly God

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    If America is so about free speach, and free speach is directly linked to letting people into your country (because essentially that is what all you people who are moaning about him being banned are saying)............then why does the USA not have an open border policy?
     
  2. bhsup

    bhsup Deity

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    Personally, my view is 'your country, your rules'. I've no issue at all with this.
     
  3. RedRalph

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    Sort of an odd view... no problem with KSA trying people for witchraft? North Korea imprisoning people for not paying due regard to a staue of Kim Ill sung?
     
  4. ComradeDavo

    ComradeDavo Formerly God

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    Except when there's oil involved;)
     
  5. bhsup

    bhsup Deity

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    I didn't want to write a book. ;)
    Yeah, I have issues with those, but those are not anywhere near on the same level as the UK keeping Savage out. It's your country, you decide who gets to visit. No non-UK citizen has some inherent right to go to the UK, after all. Well, I don't know the EU specifics, so I might be wrong there, but you get my drift.

    In general, I tend to go with 'your country, your rules' but yeah, there are exceptions that I don't approve of, obviously.

    @ComradeDavo: Personally, I'm more interested in Samantha Fox over oil, but whatever. :D
     
  6. RedRalph

    RedRalph Deity

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    I've got bad news for you: she's on the other team
     
  7. Bill3000

    Bill3000 OOOH NOOOOOOO! Supporter

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    Saddam's country, Saddam's rules! :p
     
  8. bhsup

    bhsup Deity

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    I could make her come back! I just need a chance with her!
     
  9. ParadigmShifter

    ParadigmShifter Random Nonsense Generator

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    She's a bit rough now and she's really really short as well. She did record a version of "Gimme shelter" with Hawkwind though.
     
  10. Mise

    Mise isle of lucy

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    I just made the mistake of googling her at work without safe search on :ack:
     
  11. bathsheba666

    bathsheba666 Fast 'n Bulbous

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    Which will cause you more trouble?

    The porn, or the geriatrics.....
     
  12. RedRalph

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    I perfer Sabrina Salerno of that ilk

     
  13. Antilogic

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    Tha's really strange, because when I did my study abroad I didn't need a visa application. Maybe students have a different set of rules than "pleasure" visits.

    Can anyone imagine Savage in the Speakers' Corner? What would happen when the crowd of about 50 people watching him could shout back? I'd say let him go to Hyde Park and embarass himself.
     
  14. Mise

    Mise isle of lucy

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    You would have needed a student visa, which you probably applied and were approved for without realising, as part of your application to whatever British university you attended.
     
  15. Arwon

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    Either that or he was there for less than 90 days.
     
  16. Phlegmak

    Phlegmak Deity

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    By the way, I mentioned this partly in the middle of this thread. Michael Savage is against freedom of speech. He constantly talks about how he wants people arrested for sedition. So him complaining about how he's treated based on what he says is screamingly hypocritical.
     
  17. Antilogic

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    It was a month-long summer program, so this is probably the case. :)

    I was completely unaware of this, and my sympathy for him has decreased to subzero levels (I admit, I didn't have much to start with).
     
  18. Formaldehyde

    Formaldehyde Both Fair And Balanced

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    But that's exactly what they are trying to do by not allowing him into the country.


    Link to video.

    We effectively did until 9/11 - at least for visitors from most countries. Hopefully, that will again change once people stop being so paranoid about others' terrorism.

    Freedom of speech protects those who are against it. Freedom of speech protects the hypocritical. They are more than welcome to make public fools of themselves in this country. I would contend this is a good thing, not a bad thing.
     
  19. Spitefire

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    What some of you jokers need to understand is all them folks you dont like well thay are the buffer zone between the goverment and your free speech, think of it like this imagine all the diffrant population segments are like diffrant civs in a civ game and you are the goverment if you can take away the rights a of population segment (kill off a civ) without getting hung up with the rest of the nation (pissing off other civs) then that means less resistant to do what you want, the people trying to take the rights of the masses away are veary weak and the only way thay can get what thay want is by divide and conquer tactics.

    Iv never lisened to this guys show so i dont know what he talks about but unless he is calling for the death of such and such or something similar then there is no reason to punish them for there speech.
     
  20. bigfatron

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    Can I check something?

    Do you have a problem with the US not just refusing entry but threatening criminal charges against foreign businessmen who do business with Cuba, thus denying the right of those individuals to liberty (which IMHO is even more funsdamental than the right to free speech) despite them having done nothing whatsoever illegal?

    I'd be pleased for anyone arguing on the 'this is an attack on free speech' side to answer....

    BFR
     

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