I notice alot of scenarios feature an "international" port and or an "international" airport to limit the number of cities that have trade connections to speed up load times. My question is from what I have seen these are small wonders and if you capture an enemy city with one you lose it and break the trade chain so what I was considering is making these improvements rather than wonders that require a special resource be available in the city radius in order to build that way when you capture an enemy city on a different continent you can build the int port or airport and have access to the resources on the new land mass would this work in the same way to decrease load times? Also would this make those cities with this resource more valuable to the AI so that the AI would target them? Also then would islands be required to have an airfield (not airport) on them to be "connected" and able to build units requiring resources that you have but not on those islands?
Scenario Trade Question
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pinktilapia
Homeless
As long as you don't place these key resource too liberally, it will help load times. As for the AI, I wouldn't have too much hope though, maybe help the poor thing and place a VP location there as well if you want it to go after the city.
Now, small-wonders will be gone when captured, and so will any improvement generating culture, but great wonders and improvements without culture will survive being captured and the the trade links will remain.
I didn't know airfields counted for air trade connection (it is a very long time I played a normal civ game, and my civ time is always spent in an ancient or fantastic setting - no planes there
), but if it is the case, interesting! But caution, these will slow down loading times as well...
Now, small-wonders will be gone when captured, and so will any improvement generating culture, but great wonders and improvements without culture will survive being captured and the the trade links will remain.
I didn't know airfields counted for air trade connection (it is a very long time I played a normal civ game, and my civ time is always spent in an ancient or fantastic setting - no planes there
), but if it is the case, interesting! But caution, these will slow down loading times as well...
WildWeazel
Going Dutch
AFAIK airbases are not trade links. (But airports are- "Allow Air Trade" flag.)
Ok........so small islands ard pretty much out of the loop if you eliminate conventional trade ie harbours and airports by editing their allow trade ability and only giving that ability to an international variety.
Well I am planning on limiting them it is for a scenario so I can control the resource placement interesting that the AI only worries about victory points and doesnt take resources into account.
WildWeazel
Going Dutch
The AI does take resources into account- in fact it builds cities in seemingly awful locations because there is a late-game resource somewhere in its radius- but I doubt it would find this resource any more valuable than another.
pinktilapia
Homeless
Yes, like I wrote, it just need help (lots of it!) 
WildWeazel
Going Dutch
Actually I thought the same thing at first.... then I reread it and saw what he was talking about.Takhisis said:
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
BadKharma said:
What's that? If you know C++, and don't want a nice, familiar, easy-to-use (once you get the hang of it) editor, then go buy (Drum roll, please...)
CivIV.
Ack. It would be fun if you could change just some slight things with the editor and the AI... Land Transports, Workers with one or two actions, units that can be captured without the Preq. tech being known, the unit being available to that civ, and the unit not a "Flag Unit" to name a few of the problems there...
Oh well, a guy can dream...a guy can dream...
conquer_dude
Imperial Slave
Ack no! Civ 4 sucks! 
EDIT: Woah my post count. 2,666. again.
EDIT: Woah my post count. 2,666.
again.
El Justo
Deity
yes, i did this exact thing for TCW. specifically, i made one SW that allowed for trade. however, it wouldn't reak the trade chain if you captured an enemy city that had it.BadKharma said:
it may a case where you already had that SW in another city and when you captured the enemy city w/ the trade-allowing SW, it didn't remain b/c you already had it (?) of course, this is a guess...
making them city improvements instead of a SW would work so long as you had the specific resource w/in the city radius as you had explained. however, the more of these types of city imp's you have, the longer the AI will 'think' about their trade routes and the longer you'll have to wait in between turns
yes to your question about the islands. you'll either need a city imp/wonder that allows you to 'import' the reqauired goods...or...you'll have to have that required resource somewhere on the island.
i'm thinking that by "airfield" you mean "airbase" (as a terrain improvement). these have no bearing whatsoever on trade and resources i think...
hope that helps!
Thanks el justo yes the problem is if it is a small wonder and you allready have one it disappears thats why I was wondering about making them improvements requiring a resource rather than a SW.
this sounds interesting is that the same as having a harbour or is it something else?
El Justo
Deity
it's the "Allows Sea Trade" or the "Allows Air Trade" flags in the editor
you can also make more than one SW which would allow for your situation.
plus, you can check this flag for as many city imp's and wonders as you's like.
you can also make more than one SW which would allow for your situation.
plus, you can check this flag for as many city imp's and wonders as you's like.
OK I thought maybe there was something else...........yes the main reson I want to change things is to decrease turn times and have improvements that produce vetran units but not trade. I wont need alot of trade improvements so hopefully turn times should be pretty quick.
El Justo
Deity
the "Allows Veteran Ground Units" flag can also be awarded to more than 1 imp/wonder
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