I made my own thread so not to get confused with the immortal thread. I play on King and I have a lot of problems keeping up with the AI on science. By industrial I am commonly 6-8 techs behind, often at the bottom of the pack. Even when I build lots of science buildings, use science specialists, go rationalism....even use a science based religion, I still find myself behind. I keep hearing about players who are able to get tech parity and even bypass the AI on even higher difficulties, and I would love to know how you do it! Also, I am wondering if I am not playing out the games long enough to catch up, so if people could indicate generally when they are able to catch up that would be wonderful.