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Science Victory and Rationalism - do they need a rework?

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by kaspergm, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. Greslin

    Greslin Chieftain

    Dec 30, 2012
    Exactly. Even when I'm way ahead on tech, it still often comes down to a neck-and-neck race of some kind and I'm adjusting production carefully to pare down every turn. Typically at that point I'm either racing against a military runaway (Greece, China, etc.) or a cultural/diplo powerhouse (Siam or India). Not long ago I lost a SV to Siam's CV by a single turn. That was frustrating. If I'm not feeling the tension in the late game SV race, I bump up the difficulty on the next game. But that's true with any VC.

    I find the SV endgame most often tends to be a question of "will I get this finished before Spain starts throwing nukes around?", and the drama revolves around diplo/trade maneuvering and depriving dangerous neighbors of important resources. Not passive by any means, just more strategic and a lot less about open warfare.
  2. kaspergm

    kaspergm Deity

    Aug 19, 2012
    That is probably true, although with upcoming changes to Cultural Victory and possibly Diplomatic Victory, that might not quite be true anymore.

    Obviously AI coding will always be a challenge, but if we set out standards based on what a poorly coded AI can achieve, things are getting really sad. But then again, I have to say, for me the winning is not really the important part - I will rather lose a fun game than win a boring one. Which is probably also why in the game as it is currently, I normally quit around the time where I hit Modern Era - not because I'm losing, but because I find late game tedious and repetitive.
  3. The Pilgrim

    The Pilgrim Deity

    Jan 26, 2009
    Virtual reality
    How is it possible if you're way ahead in tech?

    We'll see. :)

    It is what it is. Standards can't be based on goals AI can't achieve either. Civ is not a sandbox game, despite the fact many players prefer to see it this way.
  4. Cajamarca

    Cajamarca Chieftain

    Jul 10, 2012

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