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In my current game, I declared war on Justinian I. Although, his power graph was substantially higher than mine, his empire was more spread out and I thought I could 1 or 2 cities really quickly.

The two cities that I was eyeing had very little defense. I was going to burn both of them to the ground then sue for peace as soon as possible.

The plan hasn't gone off as well as I had hoped and it appears that although I am able to burn those two cities, he has taken over a border city to the south and it looks like he is going to get my #1 production city. Things could potebntially get real worse for me because my neighbor to the north who is loyal loyal to me and involved in the same war is going to get swallowed by Justinian.

I don't see how I can manage this game anymore. If it begins to go south my score will drop, right?

So, as far as my score and Hall of Fame is concerned, I should retire now, right? (it is currently my best score at this difficulty level)

TIA
 
when you hover over your name it shows your score and "score if you win this turn" ... if you retire you get the first one, not the higher "if you win" one.

if you retire, it will show up on your Hall of Fame with the current score, but it says victory type "None" instead of "Space" etc. so if that's the one you want, go for it! i like that it doesn't say "Loss", "None" seems kinder ;).

good luck :)
 
Good luck!

But if you ask me, the reason of this war was... kind of pointless, if these cities had little defenses chances are that these were rather unimportant.

I have had experiences with these kind of wars... not good ones. Perhaps someday I'll write a small story about it, the world ended with a severe global economic depression, lots global warming, myself at eternal war with another continent (that got back to the stone age :nuke:), and every one becoming aisolasionist... I never ended that game :blush:.
 
Good luck!

But if you ask me, the reason of this war was... kind of pointless, if these cities had little defenses chances are that these were rather unimportant.

I have had experiences with these kind of wars... not good ones. Perhaps someday I'll write a small story about it, the world ended with a severe global economic depression, lots global warming, myself at eternal war with another continent (that got back to the stone age :nuke:), and every one becoming aisolasionist... I never ended that game :blush:.

His culture was choking one of my cities thats why I wanted to burn those two cities. Once those two cities were gone, I could then grow the city that had been choked by his culture.
 
I didn't retire. I decided to forge ahead.

I did lose the border city to the south (not the one in the middle that I walking about in my previous post).

I was able to burn those two cities.

He had a huge Stack stationed outside of my #1 production city so I sacrificed a cannon against the stack. That bought me some time. Not much though, his whole stack was fully healed in like 2 turns.

Anyway, right after that I started selling my techs to other civs on the other two continents. I was able to get a bunch of money and I used gold to finish production on another cannon for his stack. He was fully healed from my last cannon just as this one got produced so I sacrificed another one. Buying time....

I was able to buy enough time to get reinforcements from the north to my southern production city. I was worried because my northern front was very light. My vassal--Saladin--to the north (peaceful-volunteer-vassal from very early) suddenly became my only buffer between Justinian and me. So I gifted him every tech I had. Somehow he beat back a huge stack at his capital. Justinian attacked my southern production city and that battle lasted for ever. I ended up surviving the first round getting rifling on the next turn and selling some more techs for gold which I used to upgrade all my musket men in that city to riflemen. I beat him back. But, Alas, Saladin lost his capital the same turn. I was able to regain it in a couple of turns. I had 4-5 musket men to the north that I was able to get within range in like 2 moves but I emptied all my northern cities to do it.

I held my production city (barely) burned those two eastern middle border cities and helped my vassal hold the northern front together.

I did lose that southern border city but it was half desert half grass/plains anyway. So I figured I would sue for peace. He was ready to talk.

But, I didn't. He had the temple of Zeus one city north of the southern border city. I had serious war weariness but decided to regain my southern border city and maybe just take that temple of Zeus city. I did after many many turns. I even got one city deeper into his territory almost parallel with the original middle eastern battles. He was getting the war weariness now and it looked like I could beat him down in a battle of attrition. Saladin was holding the north and I was deeply penetrating his territory.

Guess what...The puny-American declare war on me. I sue for peace with Justinian and war with them. The temple of Zeus city went back and forth between me and the Americans and they took the city to the north of the Zeus city which was original Deep in Justinian territory. The Americans were using long bows and just got musket men so I knew that with musket men and rifles I could beat them back. I regained both of those two cities burned down 3 American cities to the east all the way to the ocean and sued for peace just as just as soon as Justinian declared war on me again. The second war with Justinian just now started and he took that middle city that originally started all of this.


Justinian did share my entire east border but most of the fighting was taking place to the south. I burned those two cities in the middle on my east border so there wasn't much happening there.

Here’s a save of the current game if any one is interested. This is toughest most interesting game I have ever played.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/78878/Current_Game.CivBeyondSwordSave
 
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