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Alex Jones asks US Supreme Court to block billion-dollar defamation ruling against him​

Right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has asked the US Supreme Court to put on pause the nearly $1.5bn (£1.1bn) defamation judgment against him that is forcing the sale of his Infowars media company.

Jones was ordered to make the payout in 2022 for claiming the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School was a hoax.

He has asked the high court to prevent Infowars from being sold to the satirical news site The Onion in order to fund judgment against him, arguing that it will cause irreparable harm to him and his audience of 30 million.

The sale to The Onion, backed by the families of victims of the Newtown, Connecticut, shooting, was rejected last year after a bankruptcy auction.

Jones is asking the justices to put the judgment on hold while deciding on an appeal he has filed. The court is expected to consider his application on Friday in private.

Attorneys for Jones and his company, Free Speech Systems, characterized him as a media defendant in their court filing on Thursday.

They argued that Jones, who founded the platform in 1999, should enjoy the same free speech protections under the First Amendment of the Constitution that journalists have, according to court documents filed on Wednesday.

They also said the record-breaking payout and the shuttering of his platform would have a "chilling effect" on similar media figures.

"Jones believes this Court will unanimously recognize that a failure to reverse this case will mean all journalists will realize that they could be found liable for huge defamation awards, especially in ideologically divergent geographic regions," they wrote.

That, in turn, could keep journalists "from publishing for fear of being hauled into court there facing a 'trial by sanction' in which the First Amendment is superfluous and debilitating damages can be awarded", they added.

After a Connecticut court ruled against him in the defamation case, Jones filed for bankruptcy protection in Texas and Infowars was put up for auction so that he could pay the families of victims of the Sandy Hook mass shooting, who had brought the suit.

Last year, The Onion made a bid to buy the Infowars website but the sale was rejected by a US bankruptcy judge in December. However, the judge also rejected Jones' claims that the bankruptcy auction was plagued by "collusion."

In his Wednesday application, Jones told the highest court in the country that he will experience "irreparable injury" if Infowars is sold to its "ideological nemesis" and intentionally "destroyed".

Twenty children and six adults were killed in 2012 when a gunman rampaged through the primary school in Newtown, Connecticut, firing a semi-automatic rifle before killing himself.

Jones, who positions himself as "a steadfast proponent of questioning mainstream narratives from the government and mainstream news media", claimed for years that the massacre was a "staged" government plot to take guns from Americans and that "no-one died".

He called the parents of victims "crisis actors" and argued that some of them never actually existed.

In a separate defamation trial in Texas, Jones later acknowledged the attack was "100% real".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy856qxzq01o
 
Definitely made a pretty penny with how big his platform was, but yeah, he's screwed. SCOTUS would be insane to touch this case with a ten-foot pole.
 
I'm pretty sure that in the history of US business, there has never, ever been a situation where one company bought another company with the deliberate purpose of wrecking it or using it for some purpose that is different from its original purpose. This will be a significant change in the very fundamental nature of Capitalism! An earthquake in the making.
 
Definitely made a pretty penny with how big his platform was, but yeah, he's screwed. SCOTUS would be insane to touch this case with a ten-foot pole.

In my opinion the failure of supreme courts in various jurisdictions to deal with the epidemic problem of lawyers using defamation
and probability based civil law decisions as a vehicle to confiscate the entirety of people's wealth may have worse consequences.
 
I wouldn't expect anything else from you Jolly.
Guy sent millions of angry conspiracy theorists after the parents of murdered children as part of his business. A business built on such defamation is entirely deserving of defamation claims which result in its closure.
 
I thought you claimed in the other thread to be an anarchist.
I am, but in case you haven't noticed, the United States is not an anarchist society. Instead of deflecting, why don't you explain why you think Alex Jones should allowed to build a business around defamation?
 
In my opinion the failure of supreme courts in various jurisdictions to deal with the epidemic problem of lawyers using defamation
and probability based civil law decisions as a vehicle to confiscate the entirety of people's wealth may have worse consequences.
I have never said that Alex Jones should be
allowed to build a business around defamation.
Then what exactly is your problem with the judgement? He engaged in defamation, and made quite a lot of money in the process.
 
I am, but in case you haven't noticed, the United States is not an anarchist society. Instead of deflecting, why don't you explain why you think Alex Jones should allowed to build a business around defamation?
I don't want to define your beliefs for you, but I'd think the principle of "defamation" sort of flies in the face of what anarchy is about...

I mean Jones himself wasn't the one threatening the families, according to them; those were other assorted cranks. And to me that's not really worth a price that's geared just as much towards empowering lawyers as it is making an admitted conspiracy theorist (and therefore nutcase) a lot poorer.

But to each his own.
 
I mean Jones himself wasn't the one threatening the families, according to them; those were other assorted cranks. And to me that's not really worth a price that's geared just as much towards empowering lawyers as it is making an admitted conspiracy theorist (and therefore nutcase) a lot poorer.
He spent years claiming that the attack was faked and no one died. He did it for ratings and clicks ad selling products. It is hard to get more terrible than that. I would have taken all his money and put him in jail too.
 
well I do not see the solution to Jones getting rich* is...lawyers getting rich. I realize that may be the inevitability of any civil procedure, but in all honesty, I am just not particularly sympathetic to that system to begin with.

*and did he defraud someone out of that money? Or is this just ad revenue?
Lawyers like big prizes so they can get rich too. That is the bane of of the US justice system and why we have so many attorneys chasing big win cases. They work hard to win to put lots of money into their own pockets. Collateral damage as it were. Jones used his platform to spread the lies that made him rich though ad revenue, viewership and product sales. His lies were not marginal ones though, he promoted that none of those children died and the real loss to the parents was fake. And he did this for years. the fact that lawyers made lots of money off the court case is irrelevant to the success of Jones being taken down for his actions.
 
I don't want to define your beliefs for you
Yet you just tried, and badly. In a stateless society, people wouldn't be able to operate a business like that anyway. Some guy just sitting around spouting conspiracy theories? Please.

And once again, deflecting to my beliefs is irrelevant: Under the rules of society as it is, Jones built his business defaming people, so financial damages equivalent to the value of that business are reasonable.
I mean Jones himself wasn't the one threatening the families, according to them; those were other assorted cranks. And to me that's not really worth a price that's geared just as much towards empowering lawyers as it is making an admitted conspiracy theorist (and therefore nutcase) a lot poorer.
Jones not doing it himself isn't the point, otherwise it wouldn't be a defamation case.
 
I don't want to define your beliefs for you, but I'd think the principle of "defamation" sort of flies in the face of what anarchy is about...

I mean Jones himself wasn't the one threatening the families, according to them; those were other assorted cranks. And to me that's not really worth a price that's geared just as much towards empowering lawyers as it is making an admitted conspiracy theorist (and therefore nutcase) a lot poorer.

But to each his own.
The threats were the damage caused by Jones' defamatory statements.
 

Who Are the Louisiana Voters Behind a Major Supreme Court Challenge?​

There is little information in court filings about the dozen plaintiffs who challenged the state’s voting map as an illegal racial gerrymander.

Three of the plaintiffs in the case challenging the constitutionality of Louisiana’s congressional district map.Louisiana House of Representatives, City of Shreveport, Maddie McGarvey for The New York TImes

By Abbie VanSickle
Reporting from Washington
Oct. 12, 2025, 5:00 a.m. ET

One woman made national news when she protested the Covid-19 vaccine at her local City Council. Another is a member of the Trumpettes, a group of women united in their ardent support for the president. A third is a retired grocery salesman who said he didn’t remember signing up to be involved in a lawsuit.

The three are among the 12 Louisiana voters at the center of a case set to be heard by the Supreme Court on Wednesday that could gut what remains of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the landmark civil-rights-era legislation.

In January 2024, the group filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Louisiana’s congressional district map, arguing state lawmakers had discriminated against them as white voters by impermissibly taking race into account when they drafted the map after the 2020 census.

Since then, they’ve been referred to in court filings merely as the “non-African-American” voters.

Plaintiffs in such weighty Supreme Court cases often become the public faces of major issues in American life, their names forever tied to the historic legal challenges: Fred Korematsu became a civil rights icon for resisting an executive order that forced Japanese Americans into internment camps during World War II. Mildred and Richard Loving successfully challenged Virginia’s ban on interracial marriage in a landmark case.

Not so in the Louisiana case. The landmark case, on whether the Constitution permits race to be used as a factor in carving congressional districts, has had no public face.

None of the plaintiffs testified at a three-day trial in federal court, according to transcripts. The legal briefs list their names but say nothing about their lives or the reasons each chose to participate in the case, aside from assertions that each “suffered unlawful, intentional discrimination based on race.”

“I genuinely don’t know who these people are,” said Stuart C. Naifeh, manager of the Redistricting Project at the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, which has been involved in the litigation and will be defending the map at the Supreme Court.

Plaintiffs in a lawsuit must be able to show that they were directly harmed by the party they are suing and that there is a possibility that a court could remedy the harm. By the time a case gets to the Supreme Court, the justices are dealing with the law, not factual disputes. Although some plaintiffs attend Supreme Court proceedings, they do not testify or participate in the argument.

The New York Times used public records, social media and court filings to locate and reach out to several of the voters at the heart of the case. They hail from big cities like Baton Rouge, Shreveport and Lafayette and tiny ones like Gonzales, population 13,000, known as the Jambalaya Capital of the World. One man is 38. Two plaintiffs, a man and a woman, are 81 years old.

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Exactly how they came together remains unclear, but they are represented by a local Louisiana lawyer who has for decades challenged the use of race in the drawing of voting maps.

Their relative anonymity demonstrates a reality of how modern landmark Supreme Court cases often come together. Some of the most consequential cases are crafted from the start by lawyers and advocacy groups hoping to achieve a particular legal result rather than arising organically from plaintiffs who claim they will be most affected by the outcome.

That strategy, of course, isn’t new. Cases challenging segregated schools, anti-sodomy laws and the right to abortion have relied heavily on lawyers’ ability to find the right plaintiffs. But the human stories at the heart of those cases often took center stage.

The Voting Rights Act case will be known by the court and in history as Callais, the last name of the lead plaintiff, Phillip Callais, 60. Reached by phone, Mr. Callais, who goes by Bert, referred questions to lawyers in the case, as did several other plaintiffs. Those lawyers declined to comment.

A veteran who lives near Baton Rouge, Mr. Callais testified before a committee of Louisiana lawmakers tasked with creating the new voting map in January 2024.
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People line up in an indoor carpeted area.

People lining up to vote in Baton Rouge, La., in November 2024. Credit...Gerald Herbert/Associated Press

At the time, the legislators were working on a compressed schedule to come up with a map that they could all agree on. They had already tried once, adopting a map in 2022 that contained only one majority-Black district, even though the 2020 census showed that Black people made up an increased share of the state’s eligible voters. A group of Black voters sued, and after a weeklong hearing in June 2022, a federal judge determined those plaintiffs were likely to succeed in proving that the state’s map violated the Voting Rights Act.

Under the act, courts have said states are prohibited from drawing voting maps that unlawfully dilute minorities’ voting power. If they failed to agree to a new version, state lawmakers faced the possibility a judge would draw the map for them.

Wearing a blue-and-white dress shirt and glasses, Mr. Callais sat at a wooden table at the Louisiana House committee meeting, video shows. He told the legislators that he had been a member of a board of election supervisors.
He acknowledged the state’s troubled history of racial segregation, telling lawmakers that he had “supported desegregation when my grandparents and my parents didn’t exactly do so, given the time of the ’60s, early ’70s.”

But he raised concerns about whether lawmakers would have the courage “to stand up to a federal judge” in the voting-map case. He said he saw the state’s attempt to draw two majority-Black districts as another type of segregation based on race.

When Mr. Callais finished talking, a man in a dark gray suit and tie took his place. He introduced himself as Paul Hurd, a lawyer who had led challenges related to voting maps for 30 years around the country.

“I have never represented anyone but voters,” Mr. Hurd said. “I believe in compact contiguous districts for white, Black, Asian voters that live together, work together, go to school together.”
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A man sitting at a desk with a laptop and a microphone speaks with his hands raised in midair.

Paul Hurd, a lawyer, testifying in 2024.Credit...Louisiana House of Representatives

He called the map under consideration — including a second majority-Black district that snaked diagonally across the state from the southeast to the northwest — “a racial gerrymander,” urging them to “stand up for the Constitution” and reject it.

Instead, lawmakers adopted the new map the next day and sent it to Jeff Landry, the state’s Republican governor. He had repeatedly pressed the State Legislature to pass it, rather than to allow “some heavy-handed federal judge” to do it for them.

The lawmaker who filed the legislation, Glen Womack, a Republican state representative, asserted that “politics drove this map,” as opposed to race. Republican lawmakers argued they had crafted it to protect three valuable Republican incumbents: House Speaker Mike Johnson; Steve Scalise, the majority leader; and Representative Julia Letlow.

Within two weeks, Mr. Hurd filed the suit, listing Mr. Callais and 11 other Louisianans, each described in the document as a voter who had been discriminated against by the new map. Mr. Hurd declined to speak about his plaintiffs.

One of them, Albert “Skip” Caissie Jr., 78, said in a phone interview that he wasn’t aware that he was involved in a Supreme Court case. Mr. Caissie, who is retired from grocery sales and the Coast Guard Reserve, speculated that perhaps he had received “a direct mail piece” about challenging the voting map. He said he supported the suit’s aims and hoped the need to have majority-minority districts was “something in the past.”

“We’re supposed to respect everyone for who they are, no matter their color,” he said, pointing to President Trump’s growing support among Black voters as a sign that race did not determine political leanings. The husband of another plaintiff said in a phone call that he didn’t know about the case and didn’t think his wife was involved. The plaintiff and her husband did not respond to subsequent messages.

One plaintiff, Candy Carroll Peavy, of Shreveport, said at a City Council meeting in 2021 that the Biden administration was going door to door to “document unvaccinated Americans,” a popular conspiracy theory at the time. Ms. Peavy, 75, who has also received local recognition for founding a chimpanzee sanctuary, did not return phone messages seeking comment.

Another Shreveport resident, Elizabeth Ersoff, 60, was a Louisiana delegate to the Republican National Convention in 2024 and described herself on the website for the Trumpettes as “a hard-core Trumplican.” A man who identified himself as her husband told a reporter that she had been told not to talk about the case.

Another plaintiff, also listed as residing in Shreveport, has a familiar name: Mike Johnson. Mr. Johnson, the plaintiff, could not be located. A spokeswoman for Mike Johnson, the House speaker, said it was not him.
The case came to the Supreme Court in June 2024, after a divided panel of three federal judges struck down the new map as an unconstitutional racial gerrymander.

The justices paused the lower court’s ruling, allowing the map to stay in place for the 2024 election, when voters from the newly created district elected Cleo Fields, a longtime Democratic figure from Baton Rouge.
The Supreme Court heard arguments in the case in March on whether Louisiana had focused too much on race when drawing the map. The justices declined to issue an opinion and, in a rare move, set the case for reargument.

The justices have said they wish to explore an expansive question: Did Louisiana’s creation of the new majority-minority district violate the 14th and 15th Amendments? That has set up the case as a critical test for the future of the Voting Rights Act.

In an email, Mr. Hurd said the current case was his fifth challenge in front of the Supreme Court to what he termed “unconstitutional racial gerrymanders.” Among them were two cases in Louisiana, one in Virginia and one in Texas.
Mr. Hurd worked on the Texas case, Bush v. Vera, in the 1990s with Edward Blum, a former stockbroker turned legal activist who has become known for his work to remove the consideration of race from parts of American life and law.
In an interview, Mr. Blum said that case had helped launch his own legal fight. In 2023, Mr. Blum won his challenge to race-conscious admissions at Harvard and at the University of North Carolina.

Mr. Blum, who is not involved in the Callais case, said he did not know the back story of the plaintiffs in the Wednesday case. He described Mr. Hurd as “a one-man band.”
 
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