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SCOTUS - Supreme Court of the United States

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by onejayhawk, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. Berzerker

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    https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...lain-create-conditions-raf-win-battle-britain

     
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    Just to be clear pack the court means make it bigger than 9 justices?
     
  4. Timsup2nothin

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    That's one way.

    Technically "yeah we are not even going to consider confirming anyone you appoint we can just do without until we control the appointments...then we will confirm anyone with a pulse" is also packing the court. And not just the Supreme Court...Trump appointed judges to lower court benches that had been empty for years because McConnell wouldn't allow the Senate to confirm Obama appointments. Pretty much from top to bottom the Republicans have packed the courts in order to break the constitutional checks and balances.
     
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  5. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    You like when government can do anything to anyone at any time for any reason?


    More like someone down below. Repugs are the party of Satan after all.
     
  6. Farm Boy

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    The stupid and violent were not going to be deterred by her excellent scarves anyhow. A formidable public servant. She will be missed.
     
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  7. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    While I doubt the Senate will push a nomination though before the election, the nomination will not take nearly as long. The most likely outcome is that Republicans retain the Senate and confirm him/her in the new session. If it comes to that, a lame duck confirmation is just as valid.

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    You‘re being pretty optimistic there, he? I mean with the him/her-wording. ;-)
     
  9. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    Not a Constitutional way. No one respecting the rule of law will seriously consider it.

    Elections have consequences. Many of them had been sitting because Reid would not allow the Senate to confirm Bush appointments. Kavanaugh was one such.

    Time warp to 2009? Do you want to just do away with elections? You are pointing that direction. Maybe, just do away with one of the parties. Would that work?

    Where did that come from? Miroslav Šatan mostly sticks to hockey.

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    u think he lyin tho?
     
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    https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/why-does-the-supreme-court-have-nine-justices

    In early 1837, President Andrew Jackson was able to add two additional Justices after Congress again expanded the number of federal circuit court districts. Under different circumstances, Congress created a 10th circuit in 1863 during the Civil War, and it briefly had a 10th Supreme Court Justice. However, Congress after the war passed legislation in 1866 to reduce the Court to seven Justices. That only lasted until 1869, when a new Judiciary Act sponsored by Senator Lyman Trumbull set the number back to nine Justices, with six Justices required at a sitting to form a quorum. President Ulysses S. Grant eventually signed that legislation and nominated William Strong and Joseph Bradley to the newly restored seats.


    There is nothing unconstitutional about packing the courts and frankly the politics of minority tyranny in this nation at this point has lead us to where hardball is the only politics we on the left should be playing. Literally my feeling about your feelings on this is you can just go cry in the corner.

    Gerrymandered elections keeping a minority party in power despite their consistent unpopularity do have consequences. People protesting for 4 straight months now is a good indication of what it looks like when a government is completely unresponsive to the people's will.
     
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    Frankly I think most likely course of events here is McConnell rattles the sabers about confirming someone before election, some key Republicans in contested seats make public statements about not voting "before the people have spoken," then, should Biden win or the GOP lose the senate (or both), they rush through a nom during the lame duck.

    Also twitter has been absolutely hilarious the last 12 hours.
     
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  13. Ajidica

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    I think McConnell knows he needs to be very careful. At least two of his senators are in knife-edge elections - Gardner* and Collins- and there must be at least one or two more vulnerable GOP senators whose seat could be lost by ramming through a vote in the next five weeks. McConnell knows the single most important goal of the GOP as a party is to keep the Senate. If they lose the Senate, they can't protect Trump. If they lose and Senate and Presidency, they are screwed and devolve into a circular firing squad of finger pointing and civil war.

    *When I googled him, literally the first search result after 'cory gardner senate' was 'cory gardner merrick garland'.
     
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  14. Ajidica

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    That's the position I've come around to.
    Care to post any particularly spicy tweets?
     
  15. Socrates99

    Socrates99 Bottoms up!

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    Court packing is theoretically a possibility but it's also a total pipe dream with Biden at the helm. He voted to approve Scalia and played a key role in getting Thomas through.

    Maybe he serves a short term and Harris pushes for it. She might have a little more will to make a move like that (I doubt it, she's a waffler). The window would be short though. Its unlikely Dems hold the legislature long if they manage to get the Senate. Worse, if they continue with the same leadership we have weak willed leaders in Schumer and Pelosi.

    Court packing isnt happening without a seismic shift in the Democrat party leadership.
     
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    This is a truly terrifying time to be alive. But also, it's Cringemas, so at least we have that as a silver lining.

    Spoiler :

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  17. Ajidica

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    Those were both in the 80s though, which in political terms was several epochs ago - especially regarding deference and norms.
    As we all know, back then there was the tradition of deferring to the administration's nominee so long as they weren't an obvious wacko like Bork.
     
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    I thought I just said most of this. I would not know about Twitter, so thanks for that.

    More riots? Really? Like it was a threat. These people have no sense of proportion.

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  19. innonimatu

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    Yes that is the most competent electoral strategy on this. And the republicans are more competent in something than their competition it is at elections.

    Delay the appointment until after the election (without looking like they decided to do so). Make it to voters an issue of controlling the senate and presidency and win all three: SC, Senate and executive. Now Trump could even be caught with a live boy in bed and still the evangelicals would all go vote for him!
     
  20. schlaufuchs

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    I mean more than that it's a win-win for Republicans. There's plenty of time to get this done win or lose in November, and this way you don't have to require your Collinses, Murkowskis, or Grahamses to stick their necks out during highly contested elections. The only thing you really gain by doing this before November is an extra justice to rule in a presumptive Trump v. Biden, and you already have a SCOTUS majority, so why rock the boat?
     
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