Secret Service-Information about the Others

[Memento]

Its four because u are at coast. if u settled not at river and coast u have 3.

 

[I. Larkin]

Checked F11.
We have
____ gpt rank spt rank
3850BC _4 2 1 4
------ 5 1 2 1
That mean, that all have 2 spt and second team has 5 spt. and two other has 4 or less.

How memento get fpt?

Still, have no idea how to write it in proper form.

 

[Memento]

spt=shields per turn?

Still, have no idea how to write it in proper form.

So?
We:i dont know our Produktivity now
Die Küche: Produktivity 9=f+3 + S 2 + C 4
Anarchos: Produktivity 8=f+3 +S 2 + C 3
Eagles: Produktivity 9=f+2 +S 2 + C 5

How memento get fpt?

You can see it at family Size. You must switch between wheat,sugar and hill to see the different.
With Wheat we are 1st, with sugar 3rd and with hill 4th.

Familiengröße

Der Durchschnitt der überschüssigen Nahrung Datei:Civ3Nahrung.gif geteilt durch zwei.
Besitzt man beispielsweise eine einzige Stadt, die vier Nahrungseinheiten Überschuss produziert, so ergibt sich eine Familiengröße von zwei Kindern.

Bemerkung 1: Die Familiengröße einer Stadt beträgt immer wenigstens eins.

Bemerkung 2: Der angezeigte Wert ist der Durchschnitt der Familiengrößen aller Städte. Obwohl in der Demographie nur ganze Zahlen angezeigt werden, benutzt das Spiel bei der Berechnung des Ranges den nicht gerundeten Wert. So werden die Familiengrößen 1,5 und 1,333333 beide als der Wert 1 angezeigt, aber der Rang berechnet sich in Abhängigkeit vom tatsächlichen Wert.

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Family Size

The average of the excess food file: Civ3Nahrung.gif divided by two.
Has, for example, a single town, which produces four units of food surplus, so a family size is two children.

Note 1: The family size of a city is always at least one.

Note 2: The value shown is the average family size of cities. Although the demographics only whole numbers are displayed, the game used in the calculation of the rank not the rounded value. Hence, the family sizes are displayed both 1.5 and 1.333333 as the value 1, but calculated the ranking as a function of actual value.

 

[I. Larkin]

We:i dont know our Produktivity now
Die Küche: Produktivity 9=f+3 + S 2 + C 4
Anarchos: Produktivity 8=f+3 +S 2 + C 3
Eagles: Produktivity 9=f+2 +S 2 + C 5

1) How you know teams names?
2) for next analisis (plot, statistics) better to have it in txt file.
Let's agree about format of this file. It may be doc with table inside or xcl file, or txt file with separators.

 

[Memento]

1) How you know teams names?

1st round we only see "Die Küche", 2nd round the 2nd turn of K and 1st turn of Anarchos, 3rd round 3rd turn of K, 2nd turn of A and 2nd turn, but 1st Data of the Eagles.
In the 2nd round K+A have the same f +3, so Küche have no switch their MM.So u can see what Produktivity Anarchos have.

 

[Memento]

We: Produktivity 11=f+4 + S 2 + C 5
Die Küche: Produktivity 9=f+3 + S 2 + C 4
Anarchos: Produktivity 8=f+3 +S 2 + C 3
Eagles: Produktivity 9=f+2 +S 2 + C 5

The only interest thing in this turn : Die Küche is not industriell or really stupid. I think first. Only 11 Civs left who are not Seafaring or Industriell.
Eagles 5 Civs left who are Seafaring

 

[Memento]

Nachtrag:
Now,the Anarchos must know that one of the 1.both Teams are seafaring,one industriell or one team both.

 

[Memento]

One Team have a Produktivity of 10 now. I can´t make an exact Analysis, because we have
no +3 fpt field.

 

[I. Larkin]

Memento, when you have time, can you fill this table?
You may open this file with Excel.
Ivan

turn DK fpt DK spt DK gpt DK City WE fpt WE spt WE gpt WE City EG fpt EG spt EG gpt EG City AN fpt AN spt AN gpt AN City
1 1 2 2 6 1 0 1
2 1 2 2 6 1 1 1
3 1 4 2 5 1 1 1
4 1 4 2 5 1 1 1
5 3 2 4 1 4 2 6 1 2 2 5 1 3 2 3 1
6 1 4 3 6 1 1
7 1 4 3 8 2 1

 

[templar_x]

Are all the others really running @ 6 commerce now? If we can keep that gap, I think Philo could become quite viable. Otherwise, I am doubtful that we have a chance to get it first.

templar_x

 

[Memento]

If i have time,i will check all turns again. I will make a new txt file and modify Ivans table a little bit, because my Programm will it not open correctly.

 

[I. Larkin]

If i have time,i will check all turns again. I will make a new txt file and modify Ivans table a little bit, because my Programm will it not open correctly.

Strange, my Excel open it OK. What format of file you prefer?

because my Programm will (did)? not open it correctly.

 

[Memento]

I have only Open Office, but now it works.
Now, i must open all the Saves again, but not today.

 

[I. Larkin]

turn	DK fpt	DK spt	DK gpt	DK City	WE fpt	WE spt	WE gpt	WE City	EG fpt	EG spt	EG gpt	EG City	AN fpt	AN spt	AN gpt	AN City	     year	
1				1	2	2	   6    	1				0				1	   3950   BC      	
2				1	2	2	   6    	1				1				1	   3900   BC      	
3				1	4	2	   5    	1				1				1	   3850   BC      	
4				1	4	2	   5    	1				1				1	   3800   BC      	
5	3	2	4	1	4	2	   6    	1	2	2	5	1	3	2	3	1	   3750   BC      	
6				1	4	3	   6    	1				1					   3700   BC      	
7				1	4	3	   8    	2				1					   3650   BC      	
8							   8    										   3600   BC      	
9							   8    										   3550   BC      	
10			6	2			   8    				6	2			6	2	   3500   BC      	
11							   7    										   3450   BC      	
12							   10    										   3400   BC      	
13			7	3			   10    				7	3			5	3	   3350   BC      	
14							   10    										   3300   BC      	
15							   10    										   3250   BC      	
16			6	2			   10    				5	1			7	3	   3200   BC      	
17			8	3			   12    				5				7	3	   3150   BC      	
18			8	3			   11    				5	1			7	3	   3100   BC      	
19			8	3			   11    				7	2			6	3	   3050   BC      	
20			11	2+1			   12    				10	2+1			6	3	   3000   BC      	
21			11	2+1			   13    				10	2+1			7	3	   2950   BC      	
22			11	2+1			   13    				10	2+1			7	4	   2900   BC      	
23			11	2+1			   12    			5	10	2+1		6	9	4	   2850   BC      	
24							   11    										   2800   BC      	
25							   11    										   2760   BC      	
26							13										   2720   BC      	
27							 										   2680   BC      	
28																	   2640   BC      	
29																	   2600   BC      	
30																	   2560   BC      	
31																	   2520   BC      	
32																	   2480   BC      	
33																	   2440   BC      	
34																	   2400   BC      	
35																	   2360   BC      	
36																	   2320   BC      	
																	   2280   BC

 

[I. Larkin]

I did some "express analysis," probably mistake somewhere.

I do not understad how Anarchy may have 7 gpt at city size 4?
or what?

 

[I. Larkin]

Updated information about Secret service.
Impression is that all (but we) goes warrior, warrior settler first and second worker next.
Anarchy could have granary, but most probably not. Will see soon. Systematically GK has 2 gpt less then we are. I am not 100% sure that distribution of commerce correct. Impression that all chose GH as second City. DK has it at distance 2(?!) Eagles very far away.
txt file could be open with Excel.

 

[templar_x]

Ivan, this is just awesome!

And I do not understand it a bit.



How is it possible the others have so poor commerce?
Especially if they really have built another worker???
All their worked tiles should be well improved then.

If theses numers are correct, I believe we should be safe with Philo on t37, without forgoing growth for one turn shaved off.

Or do you see any competitor who is still able to beat us by turn 37?

And does this deducted intelligence mean that we have to fear to see military expedition by our borders soon?

templar_x

 

[Lanzelot]

How is it possible the others have so poor commerce?
Especially if they really have built another worker???
All their worked tiles should be well improved then.

What good are the improved tiles, if no population is working them? It looks like we always had the highest population, which at the same time means the highest commerce.

 

[I. Larkin]

How is it possible the others have so poor commerce?
Especially if they really have built another worker???
All their worked tiles should be well improved then.

DK built worker at 3300 BC, then settler. Anarhi at 2710 BC.
Eagles - don't know.
Probably they cut forest or mine sugar Hill. Our land not identical...
I did not put all in Table, but impression is that we had gap 2 gpt.
I think we are safe about Phylo. Low gpt, however may be result of Sci hiring
Sci not visible...
I only briefly looked at spt. Sometimes we had less, but at most time we are the same spt or larger. I may only guess about scenario, but if DK is Persia they may have IW already, have 4 Warriors and finish Barracks soon.

 

[I. Larkin]

Updated information.

Some data obtained by interpolation.



From top: Population, Shields, Commerce.
The rest a bit speculative: first impression that DK poprush granary, then build settler with forest cut.
Or, alternative is that they build second worker and build Granary with 2 forest cut. Looks that they are industrial.
Also, they built second City at the same turn when settler appear, most probably across diagonal... All looks strange, but they definitely have Granary now.
Eagles built Warrior - Settler. Alternatively to DK Settler went far away, they have biggest Land Area . 5-6 tiles bigger then our.
They had no chance build Granary yet, but they have 5 fpt in Capital. Logically they are about to finish Granary. Most probably they are expansionists and seafaring => Portugal.
Anarchie built Granary around 3000 BC and Settler at 2800 BC. Layout of second City similar to our, Capital more shield productive but lower commerce.
Probably both German teams are industrial.
The rest service may be difficult because next City sizes will be unknown.