Do you have a tendency to found your cities at "close range" (i.e. 4 tiles) to maximize regional effects or at "long range" (i.e. 6 tiles) to have space to develop tiles. Again, I understand this will be highly dependent on the map and your tall/wide philosophy, but I'm curious as to your approach, rational, and practice. Additionally, how large have you been able to get your cities pre/post neighborhoods? I have a tendency to go with a closer approach (4 or 5) or "jump expand" toward an ideal distant location then back fill, which has the effect of closer packing. The regional effects just seem too good to pass up. Do to a lack of play time and experimentation I don't have a lot of late game experience. Is the closer packing trading away late population game "growth"?