ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
What do yyou mean by "spreadsheet intel"?
Town #2 can build 20 hammers and grow to size 2 by turn 50 (oracle/revolution turn).
Town #2 can build 20 hammers and grow to size 2 by turn 50 (oracle/revolution turn).
SGOTM 09 - Smurkz
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Xcalibrator
Ultraviolet Catastrophe
Quite right--I didn't explain that we'd be hedging our bets. Build one warrior and then start the workboat during your turnset, unless it's obvious that the barb galley isn't going anywhere (which may be predictable from code-digging). We can then decide next turnset if we want to go ahead and finish or switch to something else, like a 2nd warrior.
I agree that building an airship in City2 is probably not a good use of the limited hammers there, especially when it's just getting started and is our only access to the sea.
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
So, is everyone agreed on warrior -> 50% workboat on my turnset for town #2?
r_rolo1
King of myself
I mean, time to get a warrior there vs unhappiness from lack of military protection and protection of the city in itself ( the sensation that the barbs of this game will give us some trouble does not leave the back of my head ) . probably not a big concern under Enviromentalism with all the trees around, but not sure....
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
There is already a warrior in both of our cities. No need for additional warriors for happiness.
IMO if we are going to build a workboat in the new city then we should build that first. If barbies stay out for 10 turns, that's 20 hammers invested for 20 food, which means extra growth and regaining a lot of those hammers again. So either build workboat, or build warrior->warrior.
Ok, checking in the code for barbarians, ships don't follow the same rules that ground units do. If there is a resource to pillage within 4 squares, it will move there to pillage it (unless there is someone to attack instead). So I guess warriors then?
Ok, checking in the code for barbarians, ships don't follow the same rules that ground units do. If there is a resource to pillage within 4 squares, it will move there to pillage it (unless there is someone to attack instead). So I guess warriors then?
Xcalibrator
Ultraviolet Catastrophe
If the clams aren't feasible, then sure, another warrior. But let's emphasize growth over production for awhile, if there's a choice on which tiles to use. Looking forward to the rest of Chris's turn!
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
If I emphasize growth, the second warrior won't be finished by turn 50, but that's OK. So, emphasize growth, warrior -> warrior.
OK?
OK?
Yes, I agree with Xcal, warriors are less important so go for growth.
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
Gentlemen, we have a curveball. It is a very good thing we built that warrior before the settler. It might not be enough.
Behold, the barbarian archers:
TheSave
The log:
I am not going to have time to play for the rest of the week, so I'm done.
r_rolo1: Up
Renata: On Deck
Backwards Logic
CommandoBob
unkle: (1-7)
Niklas: (7-14)
Methos: (14-23)(35-36)
Xcalibrator: (23-35)
ChrisShaffer: (36-45)
Behold, the barbarian archers:
Spoiler :
TheSave
The log:
Spoiler :
I am not going to have time to play for the rest of the week, so I'm done.
r_rolo1: Up
Renata: On Deck
Backwards Logic
CommandoBob
unkle: (1-7)
Niklas: (7-14)
Methos: (14-23)(35-36)
Xcalibrator: (23-35)
ChrisShaffer: (36-45)
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
I have to admit, I didn't even know barbarians could conduct invasions.
Ouch - what many buildings are put in that barbarian city there? Red Cross for the medic promos surely, but the other 4 promotions still require 17 xp! Did he settle some GGs in it or what?? 
The city will be overrun easily. The C3 archer has 70.3% chance to kill our warrior, and even if he should lose then the C2 archer will mop it up. I say we abandon the city, let the warrior guide the missionary and worker back home.
The city will be overrun easily. The C3 archer has 70.3% chance to kill our warrior, and even if he should lose then the C2 archer will mop it up. I say we abandon the city, let the warrior guide the missionary and worker back home.
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
So much for our religion.
We still have the missionary. And we will recapture this city eventually.
ChrisShaffer
Board gamer
It's size one. They will raze it.
It has expanded borders, so it should be captured.
Xcalibrator
Ultraviolet Catastrophe
Niklas, "No city razing" applies to barbs, too? Even if the city is at pop1? Well, that would be something. This'll take awhile to absorb; a test game would be very useful, yes? Switch research to Archery? Switch build to airship? Probably not enough time--better to build some warriors and stick 'em in the forest. Stacked, or will the archers bypass if they're too strong? Yes, test game critical. Ack. Ack ack ack.
r_rolo1
King of myself
I hate to be right 
I think that no city razing applies to all... but i'll test it as soon as possible.
Edit: barracks + West point + Dun + Red cross would explain the promos of the archers
I think that no city razing applies to all... but i'll test it as soon as possible.
Edit: barracks + West point + Dun + Red cross would explain the promos of the archers
Xcalibrator
Ultraviolet Catastrophe
Maybe this is good luck. If we hadn't just founded a 2nd city (and on the coast, so the barbs could see it) the barbs might well have landed by our capital. And IF the city is not razed, it's very likely the archers will sit tight and fortify it, giving us time to respond. Maybe we even want to finish the Oracle before building defenders.
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