SGOTM 11 - T'dr'duzk b'hazg t't

Turn 0:

MMed Bombay around to make it shrink in 8 and pop a GP in 7:
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MMed Delhi to stagnate at 25 turns to GP:
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Switched Bombay from University to Confucian Missionary

Sold Nationalism to Mehmed for 200g

Sold Education to Justinian for 160g

Sold Nationalism to Izzy for some amount of gold that I forget but am sure was over 100g

Sold Pig to Justinian for 5gpt

Moved Frigate to Enemy Privateer

And just for kicks:
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Turn 1:

The Enemy Privateer attacked our Bait Frigate. Our Frigate won. Docked it in Agra.

Another Privateer attacked one of our Galleons somewhere and promptly crushed the poor thing :( I don't even know where it happened...

Turn 2: zzz

Turn 3:

Justinian asks for OB, I say yes.

Sold Liberalism to Justinian for 100g

Upon its growth this turn, I MMed Devilsgate to Hammers and Merchants

Turn 4:

Sold Liberalism to Izzy for 90g

Turn 5:

Sold Philo to mehmed for 90g

Turn 6:

Sold Liberalism to Sally for 120g

Turn 7:

Great Artist born in Bombay. It's Michelangelo! Where did we build the Sistine Chapel again? If it's not Delhi we should bomb him there :3

Took one of the artists in Bombay and put him on the cow, it's at 2 turns to shrinking instead of 1. Yes, milking every last GPP I can without shrinking the city.

Turn 8:

Bombay: Confucian Missionary -> Confucian Missionary

MMed Bombay to stagnate with 0 food in its stores.

Turn 9:

Confucianism failed to spread to Lahore :(

Sold Chemistry to Izzy for 90g

Turn 10:

Tokugawa: Jusuchinian! KIMI-GA SHINIMASHOU!

Justinian: wut

Izzy: Tokugawa, tu madre es puta!

Sally: KILL THE INFIDEL!

Gandhi: *facepalm*

Spoiler :


He's screwed. Should we use one of our DoWs for the diplo bonus?

The Mosque will be done next turn.

The next person should MM Zhou away from that 2f1c cottage in the northeast onto the adjacent 1f3h hill before pressing enter because I only noticed it after I saved.

The Save
 
Brian Shanahan - skip until 18th
dima42 - on deck
MatrixTheKitty - just went
neilmeister - up

Oh and by the way, according to the progress page, our Culture has intersected Maple Sporks'!

Though whether or not we can keep it up....
 
Very nice !

Totally agree @ Toku, we should dogpile in. We might even get Izzy & Justin to Friendly by the end.


Actually, does Toku have any Elephants??
 
Turn 0:

Begged 100g from Justin
Trade Justin Wheat for 1gpt
MM, swapped Patals Artists for Merchants
90% Culture

Turn 1:
Disband the 5th Warrior.
Move Galleon towards main island.
Move other Galleon & Frigate towards Zara
DoW on Tokugawa.
Delhi & Varanasi -> Confused missionaries

Turn 2:
Calcutta and Bombay's fish get blockaded, again. Switch Calcutta to a Frigate.
Frigate destroys damaged Privateer near Madras.
Beg 220g from Zara :)
Sally is now pleased, so we beg 50g from him as well.

Turn 3:
zzzzzzzz

Turn 4:
Privateer attacks our Frigate/Galleon stack, and loses.
Bombay finishes Confused missionary -> Culture (Bombay is the slow one of the 3 legendary)
Sell Education to Mehmed for 50g

Turn 5:
zzzzzzzzzz

Turn 6:
Delhi finishes Confused missionary -> Wealth
Varanasi finishes Confused missionary -> Confused missionary
Confused spreads to Lahore
Begged 40g from Izzy.
Blockade ends, I think Sally killed the Privateer

Turn 7:
Confused spreads to Nagara

Turn 8:
Sell PP to Mehmed for 60g

Turn 9:
Calcutta finishes Frigate -> Wealth

Turn 10:
Confused spread to Zhou
4 Warriors arrive at furs next turn.
Trade Pigs for 1gpt with Zara

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At 90% culture rate. We have 146g, losing 27gpt.
We should be able to beg for some more gold once the peace treaties have gone, so hopefully we can sustain 90% for as long as possible.

We are on track to win in 30 turns, when Bombay turns legendary.

Legendary:
Delhi 50,466 + 846/t = 29 t
Bombay 35,607 + 719/t +18,000 = 29.75 t Bombay is the slow city, so make sure it stays building Culture
Vara 28,884 + 673/t +30,000 = 23.94 t

GP:
Delhi in 10 turns, stop it shrinking in 9!
Agra in 20 turns. Needs 3600 (its 300 extra points per GP)
Bombay in 27 turns. Needs 3900.

DevilsGate is the only city that is not Confused, Vara will finish missionary in 2 turns.

The relations out there are getting really complicated. Izzy & Justin are at war with Sally as well. Lets try not to get dragged into this one, as Sally is close enough to us to be a problem. EDIT and he has Rifle's !!

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Turn Log:
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Turn 300, 1400 AD: Agra celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 300, 1400 AD: Geronimo (Great General) has been born in Constantinople (Justinian I)!

Turn 301, 1405 AD: You have declared war on Tokugawa!
Turn 301, 1405 AD: Ivan the Terrible (Great General) has been born in Osaka (Tokugawa)!

Turn 302, 1410 AD: Gandhi's Frigate 1 (Calcutta) (9.60) vs Zara Yaqob's Privateer (2.66)
Turn 302, 1410 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 302, 1410 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 302, 1410 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 302, 1410 AD: Unknown's Privateer is hit for 27 (10/100HP)
Turn 302, 1410 AD: Unknown's Privateer is hit for 27 (0/100HP)
Turn 302, 1410 AD: Gandhi's Frigate 1 (Calcutta) has defeated Unknown's Privateer!

Turn 303, 1415 AD: The borders of Pataliputra have expanded!
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Zara Yaqob's Privateer (5.76) vs Gandhi's Frigate 1 (Calcutta) (10.40)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Combat Odds: 2.9%
Turn 303, 1415 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: (Plot Defense: +10%)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Unknown's Privateer is hit for 25 (55/100HP)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Unknown's Privateer is hit for 25 (30/100HP)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Unknown's Privateer is hit for 25 (5/100HP)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Gandhi's Frigate 1 (Calcutta) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Gandhi's Frigate 1 (Calcutta) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Unknown's Privateer is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 303, 1415 AD: Gandhi's Frigate 1 (Calcutta) has defeated Unknown's Privateer!

Turn 304, 1420 AD: Ananda (Great Prophet) has been born in Samsun (Mehmed II)!
Turn 304, 1420 AD: Vercingetorix (Great General) has been born in Baghdad (Saladin)!

Turn 305, 1425 AD: You have trained Confucian Missionary in Delhi. Work has now begun on a University.
Turn 305, 1425 AD: Heinz Guderian (Great General) has been born in Nicaea (Justinian I)!
Turn 305, 1425 AD: Justinian I adopts Representation!
Turn 305, 1425 AD: Justinian I adopts Slavery!
Turn 305, 1425 AD: Frank Kafka (Great Artist) has been born in Thessalonica (Justinian I)!
Turn 305, 1425 AD: Isabella has declared war on Saladin!
Turn 305, 1425 AD: Justinian I has declared war on Saladin!

Turn 306, 1430 AD: Confucianism has spread in Lahore.
Turn 306, 1430 AD: Justinian I's Golden Age has begun!!!

Turn 307, 1435 AD: Confucianism has spread in Nagara.
Turn 307, 1435 AD: Gaius Marius (Great General) has been born in Kyoto (Tokugawa)!
Turn 307, 1435 AD: Mecca (Saladin) has been captured by the Japanese Empire!!!

Turn 308, 1440 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Zhou!
Turn 308, 1440 AD: Mehmed II has 60 gold available for trade.
Turn 308, 1440 AD: Zara Yaqob is the worst enemy of Mehmed II.
Turn 308, 1440 AD: Bombay celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 308, 1440 AD: You have trained a Frigate in Calcutta. Work has now begun on a Harbor.
Turn 308, 1440 AD: Tokugawa's Golden Age has ended...
Turn 308, 1440 AD: Louis Armstrong (Great Artist) has been born in Madrid (Isabella)!
Turn 308, 1440 AD: Tokyo (Tokugawa) has been captured by the Byzantine Empire!!!

Turn 309, 1445 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Zhou!
Turn 309, 1445 AD: Varanasi can hurry Confucian Missionary for 99?.
Turn 309, 1445 AD: Justinian I has 280 gold available for trade.
Turn 309, 1445 AD: Zara Yaqob has 160 gold available for trade.
Turn 309, 1445 AD: Saladin is the worst enemy of Mehmed II.
Turn 309, 1445 AD: Bombay celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!

Turn 310, 1450 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Zhou!
Turn 310, 1450 AD: Justinian I is the worst enemy of Tokugawa.
Turn 310, 1450 AD: Confucianism has spread in Zhou.


Link to save
 
Have you checked to make sure that everyone's running a religion? Important...
 
Yep, everyone is still in a religion, and they are all running Theocracy
 
link to save

i'm a dumbass in more ways than one, and probably lost us on the order of a turn.
my most egregious mistake was when i confused science slider and the culture slider for a turn...
but also i forgot that culture building doesn't get the building bonuses.
and rushed the prophet in delhi for no sensible reason whatsoever.

anyhow:
*feel free to start trading with toku, as izzie is now at war with saladin and not toku and it's close enough to end of game.
*you don't actually need to micro agra, just switch artists to merchants. it's possible towards the end you'll save some fraction of a turn by starving cities for merchants, but it's not that time yet.
 
Never mind, what worries me is the huge stack of naval units Izzie has off Treasure Island. If she DoW's us, give DevilsGate & Zhou to Justin and hide inside.

After the GP are dropped off, we might want to move some troops back from Izzie's land.

Don't forget to beg cash from our friends.
 
Turn 1:

Sold Liberalism to Mehmed for 60g

Sold Liberalism to Tokugawa for 80g

Turn 2:

Izzy's naval stack is gone

Turn 3: zzz

Turn 4:

MMed Calcutta to hammers and merchants to reduce our deficit

Turn 5:

GPs are on the fur.

Turn 6: zzz

Turn 7:

Beginning exodus of soldiers from Spanish territory.

Turn 8:

Spoiler :


Naturally, I told him to screw off.

GA born in Agra. Homer. This is epic!

Switched Agra from artists to merchants.

Switched Bombay from building Culture to building Wealth.

Turn 9:

Celebrations in one of our cities, we have a +6 surplus on this turn.

Turn 10:

Troops have returned home, on their way to defend the legendaries.

Nobody let me mooch off them all turnset, all the gold I got was the 146 shown above.

The Save

Brian Shanahan - skip until 18th
dima42 - on deck
MatrixTheKitty - just went
neilmeister - up
 
Nice!

Messing around with the save, if I change Bombay to build Culture, add another Artist and start starving, then I can just get enough Culture to get to Legendary in 9.98 turns.
MM all other cities to slow starve, maxing Merchants, the deficit is -2g a turn. We have 39g.
Delhi gets there by itself in 9.5 turns. Varanasi does it easy, 8 turns early. If we don't get another Artist from Bombay, despite 92% odds, Varanasi will get to Legendary in 13 turns.

So, we should be able to win it this turnset! I might have to disband some troops, but that will only be in the last few turns.
 
Some good news, and some bad news.

Bad News:
We popped a GP, not a GA

Good News:
It only cost us 2 turns.


Turn 0:
Trade Whale to Mehmed for 3gpt
Trade Marble to Izzy for 1gpt
Bombay building Culture, extra Artist.
MM all cities to shrink in ~10 turns.
Change Varanasi's Merchants to Artists (just in case we don't get another GA)

Turn 1:
Disband Catapult & 1 Musketeer in Izzies lands
Sally makes me an offer I can easily refuse
Spoiler :


Turn 2:
Musketmen arrive in Legendary three

Turn 3:
zzzzzzzz

Turn 4:
Frigates arrive off Bombay, we don't want any Blockades!!

Turn 5:
zzzzzzzz

Turn 6:
Bombay gives birth to a PROPHET!!!!! at only 7% odds. :eek::mad::mad:
MM Varanasi to max Culture !!!
MM Bombay to max Merchants
Settle Prophet in Bombay (Gives 5gpt & hammers)
Victory is now 6 turns away, instead of 4.

Turn 7:
Disband Galleons, 1 Axe & 1 Chariot.

Turn 8:
zzzzzzzz

Turn 9:
zzzzzzzz

Turn 10:
Delhi goes Legendary

Turn 11:
Bombs away........
Bombay goes Legendary

Turn 12:
Varanasi goes Legendary
VICTORY!!

Screenies:
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Well done guys, a really good effort. ALL conditions met !!
We know that we have beaten at least 'Phoenix Rising', as they have played a few more turns than us.
 
The graphs haven't updated with the last save I submitted, presumably to not show everyone else exactly when we won !!!

EDIT: We should be thankful to Izzy, her decision, 2000 years ago to settle a city in the middle of Mehmed's empire, meant that she could give us Silk, as well as Dye. I wonder if in testing Izzy got all the Dye, and Mehmed all of the silk???
 
AlanH has confirmed we can view any thread we like, but we can only post in a teams thread if they have finished!

Maple Sporks are still a while off winning, they need GA number 5. (We had 7).

Phoenix Rising won in 1690, they have quite a few cities on the other continent.

Plastic Ducks won in 920ad !!!!
 
Congrats on the win!!! Yeah Pheonix took a slow but fun route to diplo victory. having a warmonger as a leader isn't a great thing. Bash bash.

Good to see that you got culture to work. Looks like you could win the culture race.

The other teams still playing will know you have now finished due to my post. oops.

700-800 culture a turn is what i figured would be best for our cities. I tried playing out a culture test game but I couldn't get pre 1700ad. I really think you need 2-3 cottage cities to get close to 1300ad. I tried spamming great artists but to no avail. You really do need no dilution.

PD showed just how obvious Diplomatic route was 920ad for diplomatic was crazy.

Anyway well done.
 
Well done lads, a good win 1610 is a nice score, we probably won't win this but we've played a very good game (including myself:eek:). I had lots of fun, and I wouldn't mind going again in the near future. I will download the final save on Saturday for a keepsake.
 
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