SGOTM 13 - Veteran

[PrinceMyshkin]

Got it. Will probably take most of the day to complete the turn-set.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

I've uploaded the 1425AD save on the GOTM server. In summary, we got a monopoly on miniaturization and traded for space flight. We still have a semi-monopoly on miniaturization as only the Ottos know it besides us. The Mayans are no more and we captured 4 cities. We got two leaders in the war; one made an army and one rushed the Apollo Program. We built the heroic epic in Kagoshima, military academy in Edo, and FP in Kyoto. Our uranium at Izumi exhausts itself, but we successfully poach some from the Ottomans. We only lack a native source of oil. We lost our gems from the Zulu, but traded for them from Arabia. We have a settler that could poach Ottoman oil or go north to claim gems near Zululand. The Vikings just got advanced flight and will trade for it. Maybe this and gold could get satellites from the Ottos and we've a good chance to get a monopoly on nuclear power in 4 turns. When will the other ai's get a tech? The next turn-set should be key.

No moves or deals have been made this turn. Pollution is becoming a problem. An ever increasing number of wars between the ai's should present some opportunities. We no longer have any embargoes against us and still have 8 turns of our GA left.

The complete turn-log:

1375AD(0): Worker joins Suo and it rushes a settler for 104 gold to claim free rubber or oil; Bizen rushes library for 316 gold to contest rubber; 3 workers join Kyoto and it rushes a factory for 888 gold in prep for FP--a clown is hired temporarily until we get silks; sell harbor, marketplace, and walls in Chichen Itza; wounded destroyer loses a hitpoint and destroys galley; another destroyer loses 2 hps and promotes destroying another galley; marines board transport and evacuate Chichen Itza which is abandoned; four more units airlift over to Maya lands; 6 units board transport in Tokyo and unload on the homeland; 4 units and 4 artillery move onto Mayan iron mountain; rush research lab in Izumi for 788 gold; rush airport in Echigo for 314 gold; rush tank in Nagasaki for 52 gold; rush factory in Satsuma for 104 gold; rush factory in Tokyo for 132 gold; rush factory in Toyama for 102 gold; destroyer moves to cover transport in ocean near mainland; plant spy on Maya for 82 gold--their military is 9 javelins, 6 MI, 16 muskets, 2 galleys, 16 longbows, 10 pikes, 2 swords, 1 spear, and 2 workers;

Cathy: computers=> wm + 40 gold + oil
Hannibal: fission=> wm + 12 gold + 69gpt
Temujin: computers=> wm + 52 gold + 14gpt
Izzy: rocketry=> wm + 24 gold + 40gpt
World Map trading yields 16 gold

We have 16292 gold at 4375gpt

1375>1380 IBT: Carthage and Mongols sign peace;
We resign RoP with Germany;
Ottomans declare war on the Zulu;
Kyoto=>factory-solar plant;
Suo=>settler-library;
Tokyo=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Satsuma=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Nagasaki=>tank-factory(rig);
Yokohama=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Toyama=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Bizen=>library-university;
Izumi=>research lab-temple;
Echigo=>airport-library;

Ottomans complete Seti;

1380AD(1): 6 vet marines move on transport adjacent Palenque; vet marine loses a hp kills musket, vet marine loses hp kills musket, vet marine redlines musket and dies, vet marine kills musket and promotes, capturin Palanque and 2 slaves--Palenque has granary, market, walls, aqueduct, and harbor--starts a worker; 13 units are adjacent Bonampak--destroyer takes 1 hp off musket, second destroyer bombard fails, artillery takes 2 hp's off pikeman, artillery redlines musket, artillery redlines musket, artillery bombard fails, veteran tank kills musket flawlessly, it then loses 1 hp killing a javelin and promotes, veteran tank kills javelin and MI losing a hp and promotes, elite tank kills pike, veteran samurai kills spear losing 1 hp, veteran samurai kill MI losing 1 hp, elite tank kills musket, regular TOW kills musket and promotes, veteran mech kills longbow losing 1 hp, veteran TOW kills longbow and promotes, vet mech kills longbow, vet TOW kills longbow--stack at Bonampak is destroyed; marines unload and fortify in Palenque, 3 artillery and 3 slaves ship-chain to near Mayan lands; 4 more units airlift to Mayan lands; rush worker at Bonampak for 32 gold; rush library at Echizen for 316 gold; settler from Bizen moves toward free rubber--oil is no longer free as Otto culture expands; Omi rushes airport for 316 gold; workers rail near Fukushima and irrigate near Echizen; rush factory at Matsuyama for 112 gold; rush factory at Sapporo for 112 gold; rush factory at Nagoya for 788 gold; rush factory at Ise for 936 gold;

Shaka: computers > 24gpt + 82 gold + wm
Abu: computers > 24gpt + 55 gold + wm
Izzy: computers > 19gpt + 22 gold + wm
WM trading nets 32 gold

We bump science to 70% for miniaturization due in 2; we have 18102 gold at 4380gpt

1380>1385 IBT: Portugal and Scandinavia end embargo against us;
Arabia and Maya sign embargo against us;
vet marine promotes to elite with longbow attack on Palenque;
Russia trades world maps with us;
We resign RoP with Zulu for wm and 75 gold;

Osaka=>worker-worker;
pollution strikes Tokyo;
Bonampak=>worker-worker;
Ise=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Nara=>worker-worker;
Nagoya=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Matsuyama=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Sapporo=>factory-solar plant(rig);
Echizen=>library-university;
Omi=>airport-university;

1385AD(2): Mayans have 18 units adjacent Palenque; destroyer takes a hp off pike at Palenque and fortifies in harbor; destroyer bombard fails at Palenque and it fortifies in harbor; 6 marines board transport and move adjacent Quirigua; veteran marine redlines then kills vet musket and promotes, veteran marine loses 1 hp killing musket and captures Quirigua--it has no buildings(a German elite musket is on mountain near Copan); 4 artillery take 4 hps off stack at palenque; veteran tank kills pikeman at Palenque; elite tank kills pike and we get great leader Tojo!; Tojo builds army at Bonampak; two veteran samurai and a veteran mech join the army--army kills two MI at Palenque; elite tank kills longbow; elite tank kills longbow; veteran tow kills pike; veteran mech kills longbow and promotes; transport unloads marines at Quirigua and they fortify; artillery and workers unload on Mayan lands; settler moves closer to free rubber; 6 workers board transport to clear pollution at Tokyo next turn; 2 workers fly to Suo and 2 fly to Bizen; rush university at Bizen for 796 gold; rush library for 316 gold at Suo--we claim saltpeter there; rush library at Echigo for 316 gold; rush temple at Izumi for 108 gold; rush factory at Nagasaki for 936 gold;

WM trading nets 12 gold; we have 19930 gold at 4480 gpt with science bumped to 50%; still no techs available except Ottos space flight

1385>1390 IBT: Rome and Portugal end embargo against us;
Spanish and Maya end embargo against us;
German alliance against Maya ends;
Re-sign RoP with Celts for 88 gold and wm;
Mayas lose 4 units attacking army at Palenque--almost their entire military moves adjacent;
Inca and Persia ally versus Russia;
We get miniaturization and set research to nuclear power;
We scroll ahead changing solar plants to rigs;
Our people want the Heroic Epic and military academy;
Suo=>library-university;
Quirigua riots;
Nagasaki=>factory-offshore platform;
Bizen=>university-cathedral;
Izumi=>temple-cathedral;
Echigo=>library-university;

1390AD(3): 6 marines load transport and move to sea for attack on Tikal next turn--Quirigua is abandoned as musket is adjacent; 7 artillery take 11 hp's off Mayan units; Tojo kills longbow and sword; army kills musket, pike, and javelin; regular TOW kills pike and promotes; veteran TOW kills pike and promotes; regular TOW kills longbow; veteran tank kills two javelins and promotes; elite tank kills javelin and we get second leader-Hirohito(apollo) then kills pike; veteran TOW kills javelin and promotes; regular TOW loses to javelin; elite TOW loses to javelin; veteran TOW kills MI; elite tank kills javelin and pike; elite mech kills longbow--3 units remain adjacent Palenque--Mayans only have 12 units left; we claim rubber at Bizen; settler moves closer to free rubber but steps off road; Hirohito boards transport to return to mainland to build apollo next turn; 2 workers join Bizen and rush settler for 180 gold; workers at Suo move to road saltpeter; workers unload at Tokyo and clear pollution; we chop 10 shields into market at Fukushima; worker flies to Bizen; worker flies to Suo; 2 workers fly to Echizen; rush platform at Satsuma for 784 gold; rush platform at Ise for 928 gold; rush platform at Kagoshima for 480 gold; rush platform at Nagoya for 908 gold; rush platform at Yokohama for 780 gold; rush platform at Matsuyama for 948 gold; rush platform at Sappor dor 948 gold; rush platform at Toyama for 888 gold; rush university at Echizen for 796 gold; rush university at Omi for 796 gold; rush platform at Kyoto for 840 gold; rush platform at Tokyo for 936 gold; rush worker at Bonampak for 32 gold;

We have a monopoly on miniaturization--no more techs available from ai;

Osman: miniaturization + wm + 4901 gold > space flight + wm
Gil: space flight > silks + wm + 108 gold + 74gpt
Bismark: space flight > 255gpt + wm + 39 gold
Wang Kon: space flight > 377gpt + wm + 418 gold
X-Man: RoP + space flight > RoP + 46gpt + 145 gold + wm
Julius: space flight > 69gpt + 179 gold + wm
Abu: fission > wm + 24gpt + 32 gold
Abe: space flight > 52gpt + 68 gold + wm
Izzy: space flight > 698 gold + 35gpt + wm
WM trading yields 18 gold

We have 11014 gold at +4997gpt with nuclear power due in 11 turns at max. science;

1390>1395 IBT: America and Ottos ally versus Zulu;
Mayans kill veteran TOW with longbow;
Arabia and America ally versus the Zulu;
Korea declares war on Zulu;
Kyoto=>offshore platform-FP in 4;
Osaka=>worker-worker;
Tokyo=>offshore platform-mech inf;
Bonampak=>worker-worker;
Edo=>offshore platform-military academy;
Satsuma=>offshore platform-Apollo Program;
Ise=>offshore platform-courthouse;
Kagoshima=>offshore platform-heroic epic;
Nara=>worker-worker;
Nagoya=>offshore platform-tank;
Yokohama=>offshore platform-mech inf;
Matsuyama=>offshore platform-destroyer;
Sapporo=>offshore platform-tank;
Toyama=>offshore platform-courthouse;
Bizen=>settler-cathedral;
Echizen=>university-settler;
Omi=>university-research lab;
pollution strikes Kagoshima;

The Ottomans are building the Internet;

1395AD(4): transport of marines pulls adjacent Tikal; vet marine kills musket and promotes; vet marine loses to musket; vet marine kills pike; elite marine kills musket and captures Tikal--it has barracks, market, aqueduct, and harbor--starts a worker; vet destroyer kills galley losing 1 hp; Hirohito chains to mainland and rushes Apollo Program at Satsuma; vet TOW kills javelin; elite TOW kills longbow; 7 artillery red-line Mayan units; elite TOW kills musket; regular TOW kills musket; Hirohito kills sword; elite tank kills musket--Mayan military is 2 muskets; workers rail near Echizen; marines unload at Tikal and fortify; settler moves back to Ottoman rail network; settler from Bizen moves near Echizen to attempt poach of Ottoman oil; workers board transport in Tokyo and will clear pollution at Kagoshima next turn; rush university at Suo for 796 ogld; rush worker at Palenque for 28 gold; rush university at Echigo for 796gold; rush cathedral at Izumi for 308 gold; rush offshore platform at Nagasaki for 780 gold

Shaka: space flight > 948 gold + 12gpt + wm;
Cathy: space flight > 218 gold + 198gpt + wm;
Hannibal: space flight > 53gpt + 28 gold + wm;
WM traded around for more gold; We have 14353 gold at +3443gpt nuclear power due in 10;

1395>1400AD IBT: Mongols and Maya end embargo against us;
Sumeria and Ottomans ally versus Zulu;
Suo=>university-cathedral;
Osaka=>worker-worker;
Palenque=>worker-worker;
Satsuma=>Apollo Program-SS Engine in 17;
Nagasaki=>offshore platform-courthouse;
Izumi=>cathedral-marketplace;
Echigo=>university-cathedral;

1400AD(5): transport with 5 marines move to sea to capture Copan next turn; workers clear pollution at Kagoshima; 3 workers fly to Echigo and one to Omi; Kozuke founded south of Echizen in attempt to poach Otto oil--shortrushes a library for 380gold; workers chop shields into Bizen--cathedral rushed for 276 gold; settler moves off choked rail network again near rubber now under Egyptian control; Echizen rushes settler for 116 gold; Omi rushes research lab for 796 gold; switch Nagoya to SS Cockpit due in 8 turns; Switch Sapporo to SS Docking Bay due in 5 turns;

Abu: space flight > 70 gold 31gpt + wm;
WM traded for about 75 gold; holding onto semi-monopoly of miniaturization; we have 16345gold at +3329gpt;

1400>1405AD IBT: Inca and Korea ally against Zulu;
Celts and Maya end embargo against us;
Maya and Ottos ally versus Zulu;
Celts and Ottos ally versus Zulu;
Carthage and Ottos ally versus Zulu;


Mongols and Maya embargo us;
India and Zulu ally against France;
Russia and Zulu ally against France;
Aztecs and Zulu ally against Sumeria;
Aztecs and Zulu ally against Celts;
Aztecs and Zulu ally against Inca;
Spain and Zulu ally against Sumeria;
Spain and Zulu ally against France;
Sumeria and India ally against France;
Kozuke=>library-temple;
pollution strikes Edo;
Nara=>worker-worker;
Bizen=>cathedral-research lab;
Echizen=>settler-cathedral;
Omi=>research lab-marketplace;
Uranium exhaust at Izumi!;
Ottomans have sattelites!;

1405AD(6): destroyer takes 2 hp's off musket at Copan; Elite tank redlines and kills vet musket; Elite marine loses to pike; elite marine kills musket; elite marine kills pikes and Mayans are destroyed; Copan has granary, market, court, and aqueduct--starts harbor; embargos end versus Arabia, Egypt, France, and Mongols--we now have no embargoes against us; we also now have no native sources of uranium; switch Bonampak to harbor and rush it for 112 gold; switch Palenque to temple and rush it for 112 gold; settler moves adjacent to uranium near Bizen; workers clear pollution at Edo and one joins to raise it back to size12; 2 workers fly to Echizen; rush cathedral at Suo for 316 gold; settler moves nearer Egyptian rubber;

Ragnar: fission > 98gpt + 16 gold + wm;
Gandhi: computers > 39gpt + 342 gold;
Cleo: RoP + space flight > uranium + wm + RoP;
Brennus: space flight > 1478 gold + wm;
WM traded around for 20 gold; still hold semi-monopoly on miniaturization; we have 20,990 gold at +3334gpt for nuclear power due in 8 turns at max. science;

1405>1410AD IBT: Celts and Spain ally against France;
Korea wants alliance against Zulu-trade tms instead;
Portugal and Celts ally versus France;
Rome and Celts ally versus Aztecs;
Carthage and Russia ally versus Inca;
Carthage and Russia ally versus Rome;
Suo=>cathedral-research lab;
Osaka=>worker-worker;
Palenque=>temple-courthouse;
Bonampak=>harbor-temple;
Ise=>courthouse-destroyer;
Toyama=>courthouse-mech inf;


1410AD(7): Found Sado next to Otto uranium and short-rush library for 380 gold; fly last guerilla to Edo to be upgraded next turn; fly workers to colonies; rush research lab at Bizen for 796 gold; settler will found town near Egyptian rubber next turn; rush temple at Kozuke for 116 gold; rush cathedral at Echizen for 316 gold; rush cathedral at Echigo for 308 gold; rush harbor at Copan for 88 gold; switch Tikal to temple; units move to crush resistance in Tikal;

Ragnar: space flight > 68 gold + 26gpt + wm;
Joan: computers > 129gpt + 14gold + wm + 2 slaves;
Gandhi: space flight > 42gpt + wm;
WM traded around for 46gold; we have 22450 gold at +2988gpt for nuclear power in 7 turns;

1410>1415AD IBT: Arabia and Rome ally against Russia;
Russia and Ottos ally versus Zulu;
Re-sign RoP with Ottos for 103gold and wm;
Ottomans and Russia ally versus Rome;
Re-sign RoP with Russia for wm + 19gold;
Re-sign RoP with America and gain wm;
Korea and Arabia ally versus Russia;
Portugal and Zulu ally versus America;
Portugal and Zulu ally versus Russia;
Portugal and Zulu ally versus Sumeria;
Kyoto=>FP-mech inf;
Kozuke=>temple-cathedral;
Copan=>harbor-temple;
Tokyo=>mech inf-tank;
Sado=>library-temple;
Kagoshima=>heroic epic-tank;
Nara=>worker-worker;
Nagasaki=>courthouse-tank;
Yokohama=>mech inf-courthouse;
Bizen=>research lab-settler;
Echizen=>cathedral-research lab;
Echigo=>cathedral-research lab;
We lose our supply of gems;

1415AD(8): upgrade guerilla to TOW for 90gold; mech inf flies to Echizen; Found Izumo and claim Egyptian rubber--short rush a library for 360 gold; switch Omi to colosseum and rush it for 472 gold--we have 14cpt there and still cannot claim aluminum from Eulbar; we successfully poach Otto's uranium near Sado; resistance in Tikal ends; shift units around for mp's and to load on transports to Otto's railnet; rush temple at Tikal for 88 gold; rush temple at Bonampak for 116 gold; rush research lab at Suo for 796 gold;

Abu: 54gpt > gems (we need to keep Kyoto from rioting);
WM trading yields 46 gold; still hold semi-monopoly on mini; we have 23282 gold at +2728gpt for nuclear power in 6 turns;

1415>1420AD IBT: Portugal and Korea ally versus Zulu;
Carthage and Portugal ally versus Russia;
Arabia and America ally versus Portugal;
Persians want an alliance against Russia-trade tms instead;
Ottomans and Arabia ally versus Portugal;
pollution strikes Kyoto;
Suo=>research lab-settler;
Osaka=>worker-worker;
Tikal=>temple-courthouse;
Bonampak=>temple-courthouse;
pollution strikes Edo;
Izumo=>library-temple;
Matsuyama=>destroyer-courthouse;
Omi=>colosseum-marketplace;

1420AD(9): rush settler for 116 gold at Bizen; rush cathedral at Kozuke for 316gold; rush research lab at Echizen for 796 gold; rush temple at Sado for 76 gold; rush research lab at Echigo for 792 gold; rush temple at Copan for 84 gold; rush court at Palenque for 78 gold; shuffle units around; no deals this turn--we still have semi-monopoly on mini; we have 23,518gold at +2620gpt for nuclear power in 5 turns;

1420>1425AD IBT: Zulu and Rome ally versus Aztecs;
Inca want RoP and alliance versus Carthage--trade tms instead;
Sumeria and Carthage sign peace treaty;
Mongols and Ottomans ally versus Rome;
Persia and Russia sign peace treaty;
India and Zulu ally versus America;
Korea and India ally versus France;
Mongols declare war on the Indians;
Kyoto=>mech inf-tank;
Kozuke=>cathedral-university;
Copan=>temple-library;
Palenque=>courthouse-library;
Sado=>temple-cathedral;
Edo=>Military Academy-army;
pollution strikes Kagoshima;
Kagoshima=>tank-tank;
Nara=>worker-worker;
Sapporo=>SS Docking Bay-tank;
Bizen=>settler-courthouse;
Echizen=>research lab-marketplace;
pollution strikes Tokyo;
Scandinavia get advanced flight!
Echigo=>research lab-marketplace;

1425AD(10): No actions taken--we still have semi-monopoly on mini; we have 26147gold making +2581gpt for nuclear power in 4 turns at max. science. Ragnar will sell advanced flight for miniaturization; perhaps advanced flight and gold will pry satellites from osman?

 

[socralynnek]

Looks llike good progress. Sadly, I won't have time to play in the next few days. Hope this changes before we win this game.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

^^
Well, we are very far ahead of most of the teams. We could wait more than a few days for the next turn-set and still be ahead, most likely. Maybe you could play this weekend?

 

[socralynnek]

With "next few days" I meant at least up to tuesday. Sorry for that.

 

[PaperBeetle]

Well I've wound up my CPU and got the save.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Nice. I've been thinking we should probably not sell out for the monopoly satellites now. The other ai's should be getting some techs soon and if we get the monopoly on nuclear power, we should be able to get the others from pretty easily. Nuclear power is worth more than satellites by itself. Advanced flight from the Vikings should get a good amount of gold in trade. We probably need to save more gold just in case we're beat to the laser and robotics. Also, the Ottos are clearly the main threat and are continuing to grow. We might use RoP rape to kill their spaceship as a last resort? We should at least be ready to win earlier than 1600AD.

 

[PaperBeetle]

Well I'm about half way through, and the tech situation has moved quite a bit. First up, we didn't get Nuclear Power as a monopoly; Korea got it two turns before we were due to finish. So I gave Miniaturization to Korea to finish Nuclear Power, and to the Vikings to get Advanced Flight. And then I went for the Ottoman's monopoly Satellites; it took Advanced Flight, Nuclear Power and about 27k g. A couple of turns later 3 AI showed up with Synthetics, so I bought that and sold it on to the Ottomans for 21k g. General sales of Advanced Flight also brought in plenty of cash, so we are currently sitting on about 35k g, with an income of 3.5k gpt, researching Lasers. Oh, and the Ottomans just got Superconductor, so we are just Lasers, Robots and a Superconductor trade away from the end... it's coming on quite fast! In fact, I've been caught napping a bit on the builds. I put up a lot of solar plants, but with only 20 turns or so to go, there is no way they will make back their build cost. But hey, we have money to burn, and it's not every day one gets to the modern era with no chance of building Hoover, hydros or nuclear plants in the core towns, so maybe they are worth it just for the novelty value
A dogpile has started on Portugal, so I am trying to get in on the action, but of course the transport network is overloaded with AI stacks. And we also lost our wool town to the Ottomans in a flip, which was pretty infuriating. I am arranging to poach another wool source from them, just out of spite.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Wow, that is moving fast. We're looking at a sub 1550AD launch now. We'll probably be beaten to either the laser or robotics, but maximum research should lower the cost of a trade. Hopefully, another ai will complete superconductor lowering the cost of that as well. I think solar plants are okay, at least they don't add to pollution like the coal plant in Edo and Kagoshima. I guess the Ottos completed the Internet by now and their culture must be monstrous.

Too bad about our gpt rep loss but we should have enough bank to buy the last bit of research on laser and robotics if beaten to them. I've read a bit about this recently and it seems the Byzantines lost their capital and their trade route before they were destroyed. Otherwise we wouldn't have taken the hit. I did'nt even think about it, since I didn't fancy the chances of an ai conquering their island. Unfortunately, it was the Vikings who did them in, so it wasn't a problem.

 

[PaperBeetle]

Phew, finally made it through to 1475ad.

So, what's going on?

Research
We are 2981 beakers away from Lasers, and expecting to make 1487 beakers this turn. That leaves 1494 beakers for the turn after - that shouldn't be too hard to find. So Lasers complete in 1480>1485 interturn. Then Robots costs 18285 beakers. We should be able to do that in 12 turns without too much trouble, or maybe even 11 turns. So we should reach Robots in about 1540ad.

Tech Trades
Osman is still the only guy with Superconductor, and he isn't about to sell it. Our whole treasury (47433g) is only good enough for a "doubt". I have been selling modern techs when I could get a price of over 20gpt, up to Nuclear Power. Only 5 civs know Synthetics and Satellites (us, the Ottomans, the Celts, the Americans and the Vikings). But we could consider letting out another tech - some of the civs on the right hand side of the shift-D menu have decent gold to pay, e.g. Germany has 111gpt, Mongolia has 1519g.

Conquest
I have attacked Portugal and taken 4 of their cities. Most of the units got there overland, but I have set up a sort of ship chain running west from Kappa to the Spanish mainland coast. There is also an airfield next to Leiria which can be used to reinforce the Portuguese campaign. Our modern armours have taken quite a thrashing at the hands of the Portuguese rifles, and I also lost the samurai army trying to snag a fifth Portuguese city this turn. However, I also got another leader and formed an army of 3 mechs. We have a spy planted in Portugal.

Builds
Most of the core towns are building units to throw at the Portuguese, but a couple of towns are still working on SS builds / prebuilds. The 1-tile island of Matsuyama has 86 shields invested in a palace, and in 13 turns this should be up to about 340 shields, i.e. we can probably use it as a prebuild for the 320-shield SS Stasis, which comes with Robots. Lasers will get us SS Party Lounge, which is only 160 shields, so we can build that in any of our core towns without much trouble. Superconductor opens up SS Fuel, which is also 160 shields, and SS Life Support, which is 320 shields. I started an army build in Edo which I envisaged would become SS Life Support, but we could build it elsewhere. Our best shield producer is Kyoto at 60spt.
Now might also be the time to let Osaka grow to size 12, although we would have to bring some extra workers back from the Ottoman province to guard against pollution on Theta. Nara has already stopped pumping workers and will reach size 12 this interturn.

1475ad
I have moved most of the units already this turn, including all the workers, and the military engaged in Portugal. In particular I was trying to grab Evora; my failure to make that attack stick means that there is a good chance of Celtic cavlarymen snatching the town from under our noses.
I haven't yet moved the freshly-built mechs and armours on Theta and Kappa, or most of the navy, which is arrayed in three locations: (1) 3 transports running a comfortable ship chain between Theta and Kappa, and one lurking in Matsuyama to no special purpose, (2) the chain of trasnports running west out of Toyama to the coast near Sagres, (3) the destroyers are in the channel between the Portuguese island and mainland, mainly just waiting to pounce on any Portuguese shipping, and to provide bomb support to our units in the seiges of Oporto and Guimaraes.
I also micro'd the towns to try and squeeze out enough beakers to allow us to finish Lasers next turn, and I did a round of map trading.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Nice! I guess I'll get to this in a day or two. Should I just finish since we're looking at 14 turns at the most?

Should we use lasers and cash to trade for superconductor as soon as we get it if monopoly? Or hold on until we notice a price drop on the sell price? We might get beat to robotics so we might need to get Kyoto on a pre-build just in case. Matsuyama could come up short if he beat us by a few turns and it probably wouldn't take him any time to build the ship. Do you think we would have enough cash to buy the rest of robotics if he beats us?

Pretty good game overall, it's well in hand at this point. It looks like we won't even have to use spies on Osman? Portugal should be trampled by the end and provide enough scientists to shorten the time/cost of robotics as well.

 

[PaperBeetle]

Nice! I guess I'll get to this in a day or two. Should I just finish since we're looking at 14 turns at the most?

Yes, please do. If we have to wait for another turnset from me, it will probably mean another two week delay.

I've been thinking about the Superconductor / Robots situation too, and I have no idea what is the best course of action.

• Osman got Internet in the 1445>1450 interturn, and Superconductor in 1450>1455. So the fact that he did not get a new tech in 1470>1475 means that at least he is not doing 4-turn research.
• What is he researching now? The Ambiorix calculation estimates that Genetics is the most likely, with a chance of about 45%. Mind you, Satellites and Superconductor were both low-chance techs...
• After Genetics, Robots becomes the most likely research (45%) if he already has Lasers. Otherwise he has only a 25% chance to go for Lasers himself - he would rather work on the top branch of the tech tree.
• If we want to do the Lasers for Superconductor deal, and we fear Osman may be working on Lasers, then obviously we should do the deal on the interturn or risk losing the opportunity.
• otoh, if Osman gets some other tech next turn, then we know he can't have many beakers invested in Lasers. In that case, we could wait until the mainturn to make the trade. This would have the effect of slowing up his next research (possibly Robots) for an extra turn.
• If we are confident in our prebuilds, maybe we would actually prefer for Osman to research Robots ahead of us? But I don't know how far in advance - how many turns of research we can afford to buy.
• We can't add our gpt to a cash payment without Osman going to "never", but we can get an equivalent effect by doing a preliminary deal in which we use gpt to buy cash from Osman. We should be able to afford at least 15k g.
• Worst case scenario: Osman is working on Lasers right now. He either finishes it just ahead of us, or when we try and buy Superconductor, he considers it insufficiently valuable to make the trade.

My instinct is to keep it simple; trade Lasers for Superconductor at the earliest opportunity, research Robots, and hope that we have enough cash to buy it if Osman gets there first. And if we don't have enough cash, then we would have to try and work out whether we can get enough over the next couple of turns, or if we need to resort to espionage.
In this case we would expect to reach Robots in 14 turns at the latest, but it could be as soon as 6 turns, i.e. we sell Osman Lasers in 1480>1485, he reaches Robots 5 turns later, 1500>1505, and we buy it in the 1505 mainturn. Then our prebuilds have to be ready for completion in 1505>1510. Obviously Kyoto can manage 320 shields by then, and Matsuyama would be better off doing one of the 160-shields components. As for the other 320-shield component, do we even have a town capable? There are a couple of towns that make 40spt - they would reach 320 shields in 1510>1515. In any case, 1505>1510 is a best-case scenario for Robots, which relies upon Osman (i) doing 5 turn research, (ii) starting Lasers when he finishes his current tech, (iii) starting Robots after we give him Lasers, and (iv) agreeing to all our trades. Chances are there will a delay or disaster somewhere along the line.

 

[socralynnek]

I haven't done enough close space races (although I have won quite a few...) to really guess what Osman is researching. Can't we add Civ IV Espionage here? ;-)

Personally, I also think that trading Laser for Superconductor at the first opportunity sounds like a reasonable idea.

I am looking forward to a weekend next week, where I'll either be away meeting with some guys to play Civ or where I have a lot of time to Civ...but it'd be great if we'd have won by then.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

Yeah, space games I've won haven't been this close in awhile.

I've got it. I think things will go okay. I'll post an update for discussion if there is a snag or long delay.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

This picture says it all. After the first turn it was clear we would win the race to lasers with no new tech. I traded lasers and some 12000 gold on the second inter-turn for superconductor. We also got another leader that turn versus Portugal and rushed the SS Life Support with pre-builds ready for 9 parts by 4-turns and the last part from 4-turns on. There were four flips, two to the Ottos and two to Portugal. We took out Portugal in four turns. I saved money, but got the research time on robotics down to 11 turns.

We could have spent a lot of money and rushed infra for a 1535AD launch, but I didn't know how fast the Ottos would get robotics or how much cash it would cost. Two turns later the Ottos got stealth, but it was too late to rush enough infra to lower the research time another turn. The Ottos got robotics on the turn before launch, too late to save us a turn. I uploaded the game on the gotm server and got a victory notice, but did not see the save on the submission list. I uploaded again and got the same thing. I'll send a pm to AlanH, but does anybody see the final save on the server?

Here's the full turn log:

Turn 0: Go ahead and starve (they won't shrink) a few Portuguese towns for extra science--lasers now in 2 turns. Switch Toyama and Kyoto to ICBM's for pre-builds. Transport in Matsuyama to just south of Ise. Modern armor boards transport in Tokyo--I didn't notice transports lacked movement. Two modern armor's and two mechs to airfield near Leira. Advance one mech on ship chain toward Portugal, covered with destroyer. Two destroyers shell Guimares, damaging Portugese vessel. Two more find a Portugese frigate and galleon and bombard causing 3hp damage. Transports back north from America.

Bismark: synthetic fibers > wm + 111gpt + 52 gold
Abe: iron > 79gpt
Cleo: nuclear power > wm + 17gpt + 76 gold
Temujin: synthetic fibers > wm + 1519 gold
Isabella: synthetic fibers > wm + 66gpt + 40 gold
2 gold for wm: Rome, Arabia, and Sumeria too cheap for synthetic fibers
Osman is still doubtful for superconductors at 49122gold; we are making 4109gpt now

1475>1480: Celts want to trade wm's: done;
Sumeria and America ally versus Russia;
Sumeria and America ally versus Ottomans;
Egypt and America sign peace;
Aztecs and Scandinavia ally versus Indians;
Aztecs and Scandinavia ally versus Ottomans;
Mongols and Arabia sign peace;

Fukushima=>modern armor-wealth(can't build anything in time and don't want to rush gold);
Nara=>offshore platform-modern armor;
New Osaka=>temple-wealth;
Hakodate=>library-wealth;
Korea and Portugal become fascists;
Portugal down to 2 towns;
Huge Celtic stacks (73 units) near Leira;

1480AD(1): Pre-turn check--Osman still doubtful on superconductors at 53231 gold;
Reg modern armor takes Evora losing 1 hp--9 resistors-set to temple;
Ship-chain two mech inf in range of Lisbon and Guimaraes;
Mech Army, two modern armor and 3 mech inf. move in range of Lisbon;
7 artillery, 1 TOW, and 2 marines advance to participate in final attack in 2-turns;
Other units heal and workers start last techs--will start worker add-ins next turn;
Damage two Portugal galleons and sink another with no loss;
Pre-builds left alone since nothing will build in main cities next turn, anyway; science +11 beakers just in case; No new tech from Osman means trade for superconductor during interturn

WM for 50 gold around--we withhold satellites for sale;
Skaka: nuclear power > wm + 18gpt + 19 gold;
Abu: synthetic fibers > wm + 46 gpt + 20 gold;
Abe: dyes > 30 gpt;
Julis: synthetic fibers > wm + 25 gpt + 34 gold;
Monty: chemistry > wm + 226 gold;
53587 gold still doubtful for superconductors with Osman; we are at +4160gpt;

1480>1485: Ottomans declare war on Mongols;
France and Germany sign peace;
Egypt and Ottomans ally versus Sumeria;
Egypt and Ottomans ally versus Carthage;
Egypt and Ottomans ally versus Aztecs;
Inca and Ottomans ally versus America;
Inca and Ottomans ally versus Sumeria;
Inca and Ottomans ally versus Spain;
Carthage and Russia sign peace;
Scandinavia and America ally versus Persia;
Portugal and America sign peace;
Sumeria and Scandinavia ally versus Mongols;

We get laser and enter the big picture--will sell anything for all money possible;
Osman: laser + 12569gold > superconductor;
Bismark: satellites > wm + 33gpt + 9 gold;
Gil: synthetic fibers > wm + 620 gold;
Abe: laser > wm + 352gpt;
Cathy: miniaturization > wm + 91 gold;
Cleo: sythetic fibers > wm + 48gpt + 1492 gold + worker;
Brennus: laser > wm + 133gpt + 140 gold;
Pachacuti: theology > wm + 482 gold;
Temujin: satellites > wm + 7 gpt + 69 gold;
Isabella: satellites > wm + 7 gpt + 4 gold;
Abu: satellites > wm + 2 gpt + 3 gold;
Osman: incense > wool;
WM for 3 gold;

Our people want Battlefield Medicine;
Leira deposes to the Portugese with one marine in garrison;
Bizen=>settler-wealth;
Echigo=>marketplace-wealth;
Celts declar war on Sumeria;


1485AD(2): Mech Army loses 4 hp and kills vet rifle at Lisbon;
Elite tank kills regular rifle at Leira;
Elite modern armor kills rifle conscript losing 1 hp and Tojo the Architect is spawned;
Elite* modern armor kills rifle conscript and captures Leira and 3 gold;
Vet modern armor kills vet rifle losing 2 hp's at Lisbon;
Vet modern armor kills vet rifle losing 1 hp at Lisbon;
Elite mech inf kills vet rifle losing 2 hp's at Lisbon;
3hp Vet modern armor kills longbow and promotes at Lisbon capturing town and 3 gold;
Leader rushes SS Life Support at Lisbon which can't flip next turn;
3hp Vet destroyer kills galleon and loses 1hp;
4 destroyers do 3 hp damage on 3 vet rifles at Guimaraes;
Vet modern armor kills vet rifle and loses 2 hp's at Guimaraes;
Vet mech inf kills 3hp vet rifle loses two hp's and promotes at Guimaraes;
Vet mech inf kills 2hp vet rifle losing 1 hp at Guimaraes;
2hp vet modern armor kills vet longbow and promotes capturing Guimaraes and 3 gold;
Portugal has gotten Rio back from America in a flip--still 2 turns from conquering;
vet modern armor and vet mech inf. board transport for Rio landing next turn;
artillery, tow, marines, 2 mech inf and modern armor advance on Oporo;
workers are added into Osaka;

With 320shield SS Life Support rushed we only have one part left to build. Kyoto and Toyama stay on prebuilds for 4-5 turns respectively, Matsuyama will complete planetary pary lounge ub 2 turns, and Edo will complete feul cells in 4-turns. We will get robotics in 12 turns, possibly down to 11 for win or buy from Ottos or anyone else as soon as they have it. We have 48548 gold making 4743gpt. The only way to lose now is to be unable to buy robotics from Osman, which is highly unlikey.

1485>1490: Aztecs and Rome sign peace;
Rome and Carthage sign peace treaty;
Korea and Portugal embargo against us;

Lisbon=>SS Life Support-temple;
Shimoneski deposes to the Ottomans;
Satsuma=>SS Engine-modern armor;
Nagasaki=>modern armor-modern armor;
Izumi=>barracks-modern armor;
We lose silks;

1490AD(3): 7 artillery do 7 hp's of damage on 4 rifles at Opporto;
Elite modern armor kills 3hp Vet rifle losing one hp at Opporto;
Elite modern armor kills 2hp vet rifle losing one hp at Opporto;
Vet mech inf. kills 2hp vet rifle losing 2hp's and promotes at Opporto;
Vet modern armor kills 2hp vet rifle losing 1hp and captures Opprto, 2 gold and some slaves;
5 destroyers do no damage bombarding Rio--Henry down to 4 rifles, 2 cavs, and 6 boats;
2 modern armor and a mech inf land near Rio;

Bismark: laser > wm + 144gpt + 7 gold;
Wang: advanced flight > wm + 35 gold + 1 worker;
Gil: satellites > wm + silks + 116gpt + 140 gold;
Abu: laser > wm + 22gpt + 22 gold;
Shaka: synthetic fibers > wm + 6gpt + 54 gold;
Abe: superconductor > wm + 95gpt + 43gold;
Cleo: satellites > wm + 29 gpt + 82 gold;
Hannibal: synthetic fibers > wm + 2 gpt + 13 gold;
Izzy: laser > wm + 45gpt + 19gold;
Julius: satellites > wm + 74gpt + 34 gold;
We have 53,751 gold at +4387gpt for robotics in 11 turns(doubtful to cut a turn);
Notice victory screen lists who top rival for # of parts--it is the Celts at 6 parts;

1490>1495: Persia and Ottomans ally versus Carthage;
Aztecs and Persians ally versus Mongols;
Persians cancel RoP with us;
Sigh, Guimaraes deposes to Portugal taking 4 units with it;

Ise=>modern armor-modern armor;
Nagoya=>mech inf-mech inf;
Yokohama=>mech inf-mech inf;
Matsuyama=>SS Planetary Party Lounge(8th part)-transport;
Sapporo=>mech inf-modern armor;
Pollution strikes Omi;
Ottomans have stealth so weren't working on lasers, but may now do robotics;

1495AD(4): Elite marine kills reg rifle at Guimaraes;
Elite marine kills reg rifle and captures Guimaraes for 1 gold;
4 destroyers reduce two reg rifles to 1 hp at Rio Janeiro;
Vet modern armor kills two reg rifles and promotes capturing Rio Janeiro and 6 gold;
Embargos between Portugal and Korea and Spain ends as the Glorious Portugese are destroyed;
Our cash will already buy stealth from the Ottos, so should have no problem if he or anybody else gets robotics in less than 10 turns; it is very doubtful we will lower time on robotics, but will see after resistance ends in Portugal; no deals this turn as I believe we already have enough gold to buy the rest of robotics if anyone gets it and only those that have already started on it can help us lower time now.

1495>1500AD: Zulus and Aztecs sign peace treaty;
Zulu end RoP with us;
Sumeria and France sign peace treaty;
Persia and Ottomans ally versus Korea;
Celts and Ottomans ally versus America;
Germany and Ottomans ally versus Sumeria;
Germany and Ottomans ally versus Mongols;
The rampaging Ottomans have destroyed the Russians;

Kagoshima=>mech inf-modern armor;

1500AD(5): workers finish up tasks and some join towns; units go to quell resistance in Portugal; rush library at Rio Janeiro for 316 gold; rush research lab for 682 gold at Sado; rush research lab at Izumo for 782 gold; Kyoto pre-build will cross 360 shields next turn--switches to Battlefield Medicine due in four turns could switch to last part if needed; switch Toyamo to Palace due in 9 turns after giving hill back to Kagoshima will cross 320 shield threshhold in two turns and probably build last part; Copan rushes university for 782 gold; we have 8 parts built and Celts are second at 6 parts;

One more round of trades-Osman will sell us stealth for less than 35,000:

Bismark: superconductor > wm + 265 gpt + 1284 gold;
Shaka: satellites > wm + 30gptr + 317 gold;
Abu: superconductor > wm + 30 got + 15 gold;
X-Man: nuclear power > wm + 151 gold;
Hannibal: satellites > wm + 54gpt + 58 gold;

We're up to 1566 bpt and need about 150bpt extra to lower time on robotics--we'll see;
We 61527 gold at +4422 gpt; no more deals are needed-- we will just look to buy robotics if available and attempt to lower research time on robotics one turn; 6 nations have the laser and could be working on robotics--especially look for Ottos on any turn after 1515AD;

1500>1505: Germany cancels RoP with us;
Mongols and Celts ally versus Korea;
The Celts end RoP with us;
France and Egypt ally versus Rome;
Korea and Egypt sign peace;
Sumeria wants alliance versus Spain--trade maps instead;
Persia and Ottomans ally versus Aztecs;
Persia and Ottomans ally versus Rome;
Inca and Ottomans ally versus Mf05 ongols;
Inca and Persia ally versus Scandinavia;
Kozuke deposes to the Ottomans--we lose oil;
Lisbon and Oporto resistances end;
Copan=>university-wealth;
Resistance in Guimaraes ends;
Rio Janeiro=>library-wealth;
Sado=>research lab-wealth;
Edo=>SS Feul Cells-army;
Izumo=>research lab-wealth;
Nagasaki=>modern armor-marine;

1505AD(6): still need 118bpt to get robotics in 7-turns instead of 8-turns; rush library at Lisbon of 272 gold; rush library at Guimaraes for 292 gold; rush library at Oporto for 282 gold; rush modern armor at Izumi for 352 gold; rush modern armor at Omi for 352 gold; rush police station at Echigo for 680gold; rush university at New Kyoto for 780 gold; rush police station ar Echizen for 580 gold; rush police station at Sado for 680gold; rush police station at Bizen for 680 gold; rush police station at Izumo for 680 gold; rush commercial dock at Palenque for 680 gold; rush commercial dock at Bonampak for 680 gold; rush research lab at Copan for 840 gold; rush commercial dock for 680 gold at Tikal; rush university at Rio Janeiro for 840 gold;

Last trade, hopefully--Shaka: laser > oil + wm + 20 gold; we have 56,589 gold at +4277gpt for robotics due in 8-turns and the ability to build the SS Stasis Chamber on any turn we get robotics; with the rushes made this turn we should be able to get robotics down to 6-turns next turn; switch Edo and Nagasaki to modern armor; we are now strong versus 4 civs and average to 4 others with only 19 civs left; we have 9 spaceship parts complete and the Celts are second at 6 parts;

1505>1510AD: Sumeria and Spain sign peace treaty;
Celts and Mongols ally versus Persia;
India and Zulus sign peace;
Arabia and Zulus sign peace;
Persia and Zulus sign peace;

Lisbon=>library-wealth;
Oporto=>library-wealth;
Copan=>research lab-wealth;
Palenque=>commercial dock-wealth;
New Kyoto=>university-wealth;
Guimaraes=>library-wealth;
Tikal=>commercial dock-wealth;
Tokyo=modern armor=modern armor;
Bonampak=>commercial dock-wealth;
Resistance in Coimbra ends;
Rio Janeiro=>university-wealth;
Sado=>police station-wealth;
Izumo=>police station-wealth;
Bizen=>police station-wealth;
Echizen=>police station-wealth;
Izumi=>modern armor-wealth;
Omi=>modern armor-wealth;
Echigo=>police station-wealth;

1510AD(7): We now have robotics due in 6-turns--since we need 740bpt more to get it to 5 turns, there is no point in rushing, anymore, but we'll rush the last bit of culture being built in Portugal as the resistances end; Coimbra rushes library for 130 gold; we have 60,626 gold at +4083 gpt; this is the 4th turn the Ottos have had laser and completed their last tech, it is possible on any turn over the next 6 to hae robotics available. Both Toyama and Kyoto are over 320 shields, but Kyoto will complete BM in 2 turns; only 4 cities are still in resistance;

1510>1515AD: India and Scandinavia sign peace;
Germans want to trade wms-done;
India and France sign peace;
Zulu and France sign peace;
Persia and France sign peace;
France and Ottomans ally versus Mongols;
Ottomans end RoP;

Resistance ends in all cities;
Coimbra=>library-wealth;
Nagoya=>mech inf-modern armor;
Yokohama=>mech inf-modern armor;
Sapporo=>modern armor-modern armor;

1515AD(8): rush library in Leira for 240 gold; rush library in Braga for 196 gold; rush library in Evora for 240 gold; rush library in Lagos for 196 gold; We have 63775 gold at +4088gpt for robotics due in 5-turns; Ottos have been researching for 5 turns this interturn; Celts are still in second at 6 parts;

1515>1520AD: Inca and Korea sign peace;
Ottomans and Carthage sign peace;
Mongols and Celts ally versus Arabia;
Sumeria and France ally versus Aztecs;
Celts and Ottomans ally versus Scandinavia;
America declares on the Egyptians;
Ottomans declare on the Persians;
We re-buy gems for 80gpt with Arabia though we don't really need them;

Kyoto=>Battlefield Medicine-modern armor;
Lagos=>library-wealth;
Leiria=>library-wealth;
Evora=>library-wealth;
Braga=>library-wealth;
Satsuma=>modern armor-modern armor;
Ise=>modern armor-modern armor;
Kagoshima=>modern armor-modern armor;
Nagasaki=>modern armor-modern armor;
Matsuyama=>transport-transport;
Egypt declares on Persia;

1520ADAD(9): We only need 331bpt to get robotics in 3-turns; I decide to try another round of rushing to see how close we get to reducing this next turn; rush lab at Rio Janeiro for 840gold; rush university at Guimaraes for 840 gold; rush university at Oporto for 840 gold; rush university at Lisbon for 840gold; rush university at Coimbra for 840 gold; rush university at Braga for 840gold; rush university at Evora for 840 gold; rush university at Lagos for 840 gold; rush university at Leiria for 840 gold; rush police station at Fukushima for 680 gold; rush university at Tikal for 840 gold; rush commercial dock at Copan for 680 gold; rush police station at Hakodate for 680 gold; rush university at Palenque for 840 gold; rush lab at Bonampak for 840 gold; rush library at New Osaka for 360 gold; rush library at Neo-Tokyo for 360 gold; rush lab at Neo Kyoto for 840 gold; we still have 54147 gold at +4030gpt; Ottos sixth turn of research next turn; Celts still second at 6 parts; we are strong versus 5 civs, average to 2, and weak to 12;

1520>1525AD: Carthage and Spain sign peace;
Aztecs and Egypt sign peace;
India and Ottos ally versus Rome;
Inca and Ottomans ally versus Aztecs;
Americans want embargo versus Aztecs-trade maps instead;
Arabs want alliance versus Vikes and RoP--trade maps instead;
Egypt and Zulu sign peace;

Lisbon=>university-lab;
Oporto=>university-lab;
Copan=>commercial dock-police station;
Palenque=>university-lab;
New Kyoto=>lab-court;
Guimaraes=>university-lab;
Lagos=>university-lab;
Tikal=>university-lab;
Neo_tokyo=>library-court;
Bonampak=>lab-police station;
Coimbra=>university-lab;
Leiria=>university-lab;
Evora=>university-lab;
Braga=>university-lab;
Rio Janeiro=>lab-courthouse;
Fukushima=>police station wealth;
Edo=>modern armor-modern armor;
New Osaka=>library-courthouse;
Hakodate=>police station-university;

1525AD(10): Still no way to reduce research time further, but we could have if the buildings had been rushed just a little bit earlier in the turn-set--I just didn't realize how much resistance ending in Portugal would add to our bpt; we are now at about 2100bpt which is more than enough for robotics in 9 turns; still no new tech by the Ottos or anybody; we are 3-turns from robotics with 58,187 gold at +4000bpt; rush aqueduct at Omi for 460 gold; we have 39 cities with 379 pop. and 521 domination tiles; Celts are still second at 6 parts on victory screen; we will either buy robotics next turn for a 1535AD win or we will launch in 1540AD

1525>1530AD: Celts and Mongols ally versus France;
Rome and Germany ally versus Mongols;
Rome and Celts sign peace;
India and Sumeria ally versus Germany;
France and Ottomans ally versus Scandinavia;
Zulu want MPP and RoP--trade maps instead;
Korea and India sign peace;

Pollution strikes Edo and Satsuma;
Nara=>modern armor-modern armor;
Omi=>aqueduct-wealth;

1530AD(11): No new tech, so we will launch in 1540AD; it could have been we needed cash to buy robotics much earlier, but if we had just whipped infra everywhere we could have won next turn in 1535AD; I think we did the right thing; Ottomans are more interested in conquest since the Celts are still in =second at six parts; without optimizing tiles we are at 2056bpt with 61746gold at 4000gpt robotics due in 2;

1530>1535AD: Zulu and Celts ally versus Korea;
Aztecs and Celts sign peace;
Ottomans declare on French;
Aztecs and Egypt ally versus Arabia;
Celts and Sumeria sign peace;
Germany and Ottomans ally versus Arabia;
Germany and Ottomans ally versus Scandinavia;
India and America sign peace;
Zulu and America sign peace;
Mongols and America sign peace;
Spain and America ally versus Arabia;

Kyoto=>modern armor-modern armor;
Nagoya=>modern armor-modern armor;
Nagasaki=>modern armor-modern armor;
Yokohama=>modern armor-modern armor;
Sapporo=>modern armor-modern armor;
Finally, the Ottos get robotics, too late to help us

1535AD(12): We go ahead and purchase stealth and robotics from Osman for 34277 gold; swicth Toyama to SS Stasis Chamber burning 208 shields; set research to smart weapons due in 8 turns; we still have 31469 gold at +2807gpt with no deals

1535>1540AD: Sumeria and Spain ally against France;
Spain and Germany ally against Korea;
Rome and Celts ally versus Carthage;
Germany and Ottomans ally versus Persia;
Germany and Ottomans ally versus France;
The rampaging Ottomans destroy the Arabs;
India and Scandinavia sign peace;

Evora riots without a market and loss of gems from Arabia;
Braga also riots without a market;
Kagoshima=>modern armor-modern armor;
Toyama=>SS Stasis Chamber-modern armor;

Spaceship victoy--Celts are second with 7 parts; save game and submit

 

[AlanH]

Well done, Veterans

Check the info at the top of the progress and results page, which tells you that your final save is hidden until the results are published, to confuse the competition.

 

[PrinceMyshkin]

I guess this means we are allowed to view the other Team's threads now as long as we don't post?

 

[AlanH]

Correct, on both counts. You can post in threads where the team has finished.

 

[PaperBeetle]

Thanks for bringing it home Prince. And thanks as well for rescuing the enterprise about half way through. There certainly was a point where I was ready to go bury my head in the sand for a couple of months, and hope that everyone forgot about this SG. But now we are done, and it looks like we have a great chance of getting second place, a mere 20 turns behind klarius. Feels good to be finished doesn't it? In fact it's only a couple of hours after completion, and I'm already feeling nostalgic about this leviathan of a game! Not that I'm in any hurry to play another Huge game, but I can relieve the agony by lurking on the threads of those teams that are still playing.

 

[socralynnek]

Great news guys!

I am very happy on us winning this game and that with a good date!

Sorry, that I wasn't as much help as in earlier games.

Everytime I started a turnset, it took me very long for a turn...therefore I didn't manage to play more often.
So, thanks to those playing more regularly for keeping the pace!