The 1st thing I did is trying to download the saves and was not allowed.
The I saw in US thread that AlanH will only open the barrier after all teams finish.
SGOTM 16 - Plastic Ducks
- Thread starter AlanH
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The 1st thing I did is trying to download the saves and was not allowed.
The I saw in US thread that AlanH will only open the barrier after all teams finish.
shakabrade
Praise Vivec!
I had no problems downloading it. Probably because I am constantly logged on on both my PC and smartphone. Also, 2 weeks in hometown helped to cover the track too.
Ok, if I could wait for 4 months, I can be patient 17-18 more days. But if we voted now, I'd be strongly against an extension.
shakabrade
Praise Vivec!
The 1st thing I did is trying to download the saves and was not allowed.
I think barrier existed so no one accidentally opens other team's thread and becomes disqualified. List of saves is densely populated and mistakes can happen.
Yes, it saved me a scare once a week ago
As I predicted, it seems no one thought of using spies for culture. Even though it only shaved 3~10 turns, with better planning circa turn 180 it might have saved us more turns because we wouldn't be so focused on culture and could finish techs pre-1600AD.
1t earlier is 100% certain, with a few other key techs 1t earlier, we keep gaining late-game turns...
SteelHorse
Deity
Congrats - very nicely done. Clever move with the spies, more efficient than the great artist culture bombs. And as always very thorough analysis.
Kaku will likely finish ~T245 if they realize that they could go for UN instead of AP, their techs rate and tech pace are quite behind us. I only saw their 1450AD screenshots, where they were researching SP with ~1900 bpt with 100% slider in golden age, while our team were able to pump over 2000 bpt when pushing to Medicine.
srad
King
Congratulations 
I followed your thread closely.
I followed your thread closely.
Your save checks out with the following results:
10 objectives acheived
t235 / 1625AD UN Diplomatic and Domination victories
score 224181
Fantastic game, folks! Presently on top of the podium, awaiting the rest of the finishers... but looks like this one might stand.
10 objectives acheived
t235 / 1625AD UN Diplomatic and Domination victories
score 224181
Fantastic game, folks! Presently on top of the podium, awaiting the rest of the finishers... but looks like this one might stand.
I went ahead and grabbed some Kaku saves while I was away from home. It's a bit hard to follow threads without screenshots if the saves aren't available
(not that I'm complaining, I do 100% support the system)Kaku T214
Spoiler :
guy with a sweet National Park+NE city. (12 free specialists + salon)PD T214
Spoiler :
The big difference in our games is the focus on research vs food~hammers. This is mainly reflected in city infrastructure (and population, we have 200 more pop - all those extra farms at Biology were the right call to quickly grow before Sushi came online; well maybe not all 100 of them but you get my drift) but also in warring. Ram is still alive and Hammy is still resisting them. We had 13 more cities contributing at the same date (53 vs 41, but 1 vs 2 in Anarchy).
It's too tedious to compute all the hammers generated, I'll only do it for early dates.
Congratulations
I followed your thread closely.
A true dedicated lurker for a few games
Your save checks out with the following results:
10 objectives acheived
t235 / 1625AD UN Diplomatic and Domination victories
score 224181
Fantastic game, folks! Presently on top of the podium, awaiting the rest of the finishers... but looks like this one might stand.
Thanks!
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Here's the bunch of saves I made in between T214-end + auto-save of victory turn.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6t752g85lnnhytk/T214-end.zip
T69 comparison
Kaku vs PD
beakers: 2896 vs 1803 (including trades & Oracle) +1093
hammers: 545 vs 645 (free hammers excluded) -100
100% bpt: 37 vs 29
pop: 9 vs 10
T88 comparison
Kaku vs PD
beakers: 3868 vs 2228 (including trades & Oracle) +1640
hammers: 1145 vs 1370 (free hammers excluded) -225
100% bpt: 70 vs 58
pop: 10 vs 16
The next same-turn submission goes all the way to T143... too many numbers to crunch up for me but these 2 comparisons already show what happens.
Kaku vs PD
beakers: 2896 vs 1803 (including trades & Oracle) +1093
hammers: 545 vs 645 (free hammers excluded) -100
100% bpt: 37 vs 29
pop: 9 vs 10
T88 comparison
Kaku vs PD
beakers: 3868 vs 2228 (including trades & Oracle) +1640
hammers: 1145 vs 1370 (free hammers excluded) -225
100% bpt: 70 vs 58
pop: 10 vs 16
The next same-turn submission goes all the way to T143... too many numbers to crunch up for me but these 2 comparisons already show what happens.
Wow, have you used any tool to get that number quickly?
They invested so many on Techs? 1640 beakers= 4 Techs!!
6 pop = 180 hammers, but I still cannot understand how comes the trade-off between 405 hammers and 1640 beakers. If the data is true, we are behind in terms of the overall yield.
Where's the missing/hidden asset?
Their capital site is the best choice as I mentioned long time ago, which gave the faster opening and stronger capital. Not a fault of us, that's just the willingness to take the risk.
The hidden wheat makes the PH site gamble being successful.
The hidden wheat makes the PH site gamble being successful.
Ah, got it. Then their real beaker investment should be much less.
The problem of tech trade is that the return is dependant on the tech paths of AIs which are not cotrolled by us.
I think this comes from the high stake gambit of HOF players.
Yup, another proof of gambling habit of HOF players
For T69, trades include: (might have missed some)
AH, Myst, Hunting, Mining (2040BC)
Archery, BW (1960BC)
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654 beakers
EDIT: also, CoL from Oracle is more expensive than Monarchy.
