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SGOTM 18 - Xteam

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession GOTM' started by AlanH, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Htadus

    Htadus A and L's dad

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    T157(T+14 cont) 100% espy on Mansa. We should know what he is learning next turn.
    T158(T+15) Mansa is learning .....da...da....daaaaa (from Croods :D ).....corporation. Hummmm. Unit movements.
    T159(T+16) Emancipation Mansa....really? Grrrrr. Bombard culture in Swingers pad.
    T160(T+17) Lost a mainland defense knight at high odds to a sword on open ground. Bombard culture in Swingers pad. Switching HE city to Market. Joao ask us to join the war and I refused.
    T161(T+18) Mids is ours for a loss of 2 cats. Whip market in HE for 3 pop with 3 angry pop. Gman just lost his city.

    I have to go but will be back to finish my set tonight.
     

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  2. Mad Professor

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    Good to have Swingers Pad. G.Scientist in two turns -> GAge -> civic shift?

    We still have spy points on Mansa but we can't see what he's studying?

    Evil seems to have quite a few units in western Portugal unfortunately. I think we need more units yet to deal with him fully.

    War with Portugal is not far off unless we pay him to get peace with Gandhi because he will now send units towards New India and since Portugal's vote is getting harder and harder to get, we are just about committed to keeping Gandhi in the game.
     
  3. Htadus

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    Yes the idea is to generate at least 3 GS's during that time with CS, Merc, and paci.

    Mansa just completed Corporations and we will know next turn what he is learning.

    I agree about Joao. I am hoping to capture the next two cities and get peace with Shaka and turn all our units against Joao. We need to take his capital and SoZ asap. I am going to go on a whipping frenzy for units but won't play before others respond.

    Actually with a GA around the corner, the whip may not be the right thing to do.

    Oh yes, next turn Gandhi should be Jewish.
     
  4. Mad Professor

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    How hard will pacifism hit our economy with our army size?

    What about representation?

    Right. Would be nice to be able to use lots of tiles during a GA. On that thought, maybe not representation at the beginning of the GA, but perhaps swapping to it before finishing the GA?

    Yes. That will help. Now we just have to hide him away for the rest of the game keeping the claws of Evil and Joao off him. Mansa will probably leave him alone without our encouragement.

    How fast do you think we can take those two cities, and which direction are those Evil units in western Portugal going? Are they heading east, or are they going to run into that stack that we have in western Portugal?
     
  5. Sengir

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    Hi guys,

    Sorry to go silent on you like this, but real life prevented me from doing pretty much anything. I'm still not capable of playing civ, and won't be for a while, so I have to resign.

    Good luck with the game :goodjob:

    Regards,
    Sengir
     
  6. zamint3

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    The Event log says that we lost just one Treb :goodjob:
    Looks like our cats did a very good job! :D

    No need for monuments now that we have The Sistine Chapel.

    Incredible that our power curve is so far below Dr. Evils :eek:

    I would hire an engineer somewhere, getting a GE is not easy, but trying often at low odds will increase our chances.

    Get the incense improved ;)
     
  7. leif erikson

    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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    Sorry to hear this.

    Please continue to contribute as you are able.

    Thanks for letting us know.
     
  8. Htadus

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    I am not sure what is really going to happen with them. There were 2 mini Zulu stacks near by. I am sending our stack following the Zulu. I am going to need 2-3 cats from HE city.

    Well there goes me thinking my memory is good.:lol: I was positive I lost cats. :crazyeye:
     
  9. Cactus Pete

    Cactus Pete Deity GOTM Staff

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    Hope you can join us for the next game.

    Are we still planning to go after Joao?
     
  10. leif erikson

    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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    Can we take him, and Evil too?

    Looking good Htadus. :goodjob:
     
  11. Mad Professor

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    From what I see in the file I think we can take them both if we keep pumping units for a little more, but the power graph makes me nervous. I have a nagging feeling that we haven't seen all of Evil's goons yet...
     
  12. Htadus

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    Yes we may need to dow Joao and No we can not effectively take on both of them, but that is what the 10 turns of peace is for right?

    I will close borders with Joao if he become an issue for our ultimate goals. But delay war for now.

    If we take both of the cities, then we can get peace. I wonder if we can beg for peace from Joao?
     
  13. Htadus

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    T161(T+18 Cont) whipped a knight with 2 angry pop in NY.

    T162(T+19) Unit movements and Mansa is learning MT at about 750 bpt rate. That is awesome.

    T163(T+20) IBT lost 2 units near swingers pad. GM and escort in Mansa territory and we have a GS.

    T164(T+21) Damn Mansa just popped up and asked us to change to free market. I opened civic screen and can do the switch to Rep, CS, Merc and Paci. If I do this, would the request get cancelled? I can make the switch and then agree to his request too. Since the five turn counter starts, that request should not take effect.

    I am going to let the game run and go to sleep and wait for comments. Also Evil just learned Engineering.

    Please leave some comments or advice.
     

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    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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    Think I would accept Mansa's demand, take the 1-turn of anarchy and then make other changes once our Golden Age kicks in. Unless we are less than 5-turns from GA, that could cause other issues, like changing back to civic we want within the GA time limit? :dunno:
     
  15. Htadus

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    This is what I thought of this morning too. I think we just accept the 1 turn anarchy and then wait 5 turns to trigger the GA. Then switch to civics we want for GA and get out of pacifism and Merc to something else.
     
  16. Cactus Pete

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    Sounds right to me.

    Like Mansa's tech path.
     
  17. Htadus

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    Ok I am going to finish my set now.
     
  18. leif erikson

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    T164(T+21 cont) Accepted the civic change and he is happy. Captured next city for loss of 1 Treb. Yes, I checked this time. :D BTW IBT Shaka attacked our team in Portugal and lost 6-7 units. Killed stray XB and 2 HA.

    T165(T+22) Kill 2 impi, sword and a HA. Joao is not moving east yet. Moving toward last city we need to take for peace. We have a nice stack in Portugal. I made the trade mission to the ToA city for 1300 g.

    OK guys I am being so indecisive right now.

    We have the following options. We can trade GP (1950 bulb) and 745g for Nationalism.
    * So 2695 units (1950 + 745) for 2410 (2925-515) bulbs we still need for Nat.

    or

    Trade GP (1950 b) for Theo (812 b or 2 Turns), Drama (487 b or 1 Turn), WM and 50g (all of his gold) and learn Nationalism in 4 turns at -224 gpt. (896 gold total)

    *So spend 2846 units (896 +1950) to get 3793 (2410 + 487 + 896) units but waste 4 turns from next needed tech.

    My current feel is that we learn Nationalism on our own for the reason of gifting it to Gandhi. We need to get him to his favorite civic since he may not be able to do so on his own. Am I thinking wrong here?
     
  20. Cactus Pete

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    Is getting G to his favorite civic critical or just playing it safe?
     

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