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SGOTM 21 Pregame Discussion Thread - Conquering the Hearts

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession GOTM' started by Deckhand, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    I don't see that we need to change any rules.
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    Doesn't matter. Score changes dynamically during your turn.
    Capture as many cities as you like, trade lots of techs, submit saved game, gift Willem gold, (and post associated screen shots), submit saved game, take more cities and trade for more techs. The only difference between the two submitted saves will be the gold gift.

    Spoiler :
    btw, I was the one that first described a strategy. :nono: oops
     
  2. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    We've all been too busy (lazy?) to check your math. The deadline isn't shorter.
    Jan 7 to April 30 is 3 months (Feb, Mar, Apr) + 3 weeks. Similar to last game. I think it is enough time. And I think a couple teams will struggle to meet it and have to play fast at the end.

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    Last game was July 7 to Oct 31. 16 weeks, 4 days. If we extend this game over the weekend, it will also be 16 weeks, 4 days. Suggested new end date = May 3.

    edit: period was Jan 10 to Apr 30 (not Jan 7); so 3 more days will be added to schedule: May 5 + 3 = May 8.
     
  3. Noble Zarkon

    Noble Zarkon Elite Quattromaster - Emperor (BTS) Moderator Hall of Fame Staff Supporter GOTM Staff

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    You could also give us the May Day holiday - or is it only the UK that will celebrate this on May 4th?
     
  4. BSPollux

    BSPollux Deity

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    Germany celebrates on May 1st. I don't care either way. Deckhand?

    Btw we are working on some changes to include your suggestions. Small details.
     
  5. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    Let's go all the way through May 5.
    California has a quasi holiday, Cinco de Mayo.
    I expect you will need to go significantly deeper in the tech tree this time. Two extra days will help. :mischief:
     
  6. Gumbolt

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    3 and a half months is fine. No idea where I got 2 and a half months from. Bizarre. Too many late nights.
     
  7. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    I just posted this in the sign up thread:
     
  8. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    OK, I just read thru this thread again. Most of the concerns/questions were clarifications of the stated rules. I don't see that I need to update anything beyond what I already changed and the changes you don't know about yet.

    But I didn't see where we answered this question:
    It is allowed.

    Unless someone knows a reason it shouldn't be?
     
  9. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    Another unsettled issue was the common dates for saves to facilitate comparison.
    Anyone have a suggestion that is better than turns 50, 100, 150, 200?
     
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    shakabrade Praise Vivec!

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  11. FiveRings

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    A dumb question for sure, but I somehow couldn't find the answer thru the search function: what is exactly this "multiple techs thru Oracle/Liberalism" exploit? Any link to a discussion on it?
     
  12. Gumbolt

    Gumbolt Phoenix Rising

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    Free tech bug link.

    In SGOTM it would be considered cheating and certainly not in the spirit of the SGOTM. If you really need to use this to win games then you are doing something wrong. I don't see point in it as players could easily add techs via world builder.
     
  13. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    We made some changes to information purchasing, including two new restrictions and increasing costs.
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    Purchasing Information
    Willem will only sell information if his opinion of you is +1 or better.
    You may not trade techs with Willem the same turn that you purchase information.
    Information is purchased with a cash gift via diplomacy screen, or by moving workers into his capital and gifting them by the interface button.

    As your training sessions get increasingly advanced, the bills will start to climb as well. So each time you buy information, you have to scratch one payment option from this list of 20.

    Example: If you purchased the first two pieces of information with gold (50 and 75), you will have the choice to pay with either 1 worker or 100 gold for the third purchase. If you chose the 1 worker option, the next choice will be between 2 workers or 100 gold and so on.


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    Note that you may still purchase multiple pieces of information in the same transaction and/or on the same turn.
     
  14. BSPollux

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    Please don't discuss strategies regarding these rule changes. But feel free to ask if something is unclear.
     
  15. kcd_swede

    kcd_swede Jag är Viking!½ GOTM Staff

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    Umm... laurels notwithstanding... is it ok to just kill them all?:ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15:

    Just in case the special conditions get too tedious, I mean.:mischief:
     
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    AlanH Mac addict, php monkey Moderator Hall of Fame Staff Supporter GOTM Staff

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    The team threads and Maintenance Thread for this game are now open for business. If you are assigned to a specific team, please do not visit another team thread until the game os over.
     
  17. kcd_swede

    kcd_swede Jag är Viking!½ GOTM Staff

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    Personally, I think Unusual SuspeX should probaly change their name as well, back to X-team or something, seeing as Unusual Suspect is virtually a registered trademark for 4th place finishing. Oh wait.. forget I said anything, you are of course welcome to use the name for a small liscensing fee.:lol:
     
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    leif erikson Game of the Month Fanatic Administrator Supporter GOTM Staff

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  19. Deckhand

    Deckhand Procrastination at its finest GOTM Staff

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    Yes you can. :yup:
    You can still get first place if you kill them all the soonest and no team satisfies any of the wooing requirements.

    :thumbsup:I had the same thought.
     
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    Edit: Misunderstood at first reading.
     

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