zbgayumn
Emperor
Re: Alpha
There's always an announcement as soon as the first civ gets Alpha. It will say they're "willing to trade" even if it's not for a tech you can currently offer.
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Re: Alpha
There's always an announcement as soon as the first civ gets Alpha. It will say they're "willing to trade" even if it's not for a tech you can currently offer.
Did not know that (not in Vanilla). Thanks.
zbgayumn
Emperor
Here's the test game updated to T88 in case you guys want it.
It's definitely getting to be a pain to match it up with the real game. I ended up with a few differences:
1. Oak is 2
ahead on the DS
2. WPB is 5 ahead on the galley
3. Ombu is 1 turn behind in production (warrior should've finished last turn), however there's already 19 in a Library, so after T88 it will be very close to the real game.
I'll work out a plan for the next 10 or so turns by Sunday night, I think. I'll delay the Settler a little bit to avoid whipping the galley in WPB. I think I'll put off any religious conversion until at least one more city gets Confucianism. I'd prefer 3 cities.
It's definitely getting to be a pain to match it up with the real game. I ended up with a few differences:
1. Oak is 2
ahead on the DS2. WPB is 5
ahead on the galley3. Ombu is 1 turn behind in production (warrior should've finished last turn), however there's already 19
in a Library, so after T88 it will be very close to the real game.I'll work out a plan for the next 10 or so turns by Sunday night, I think. I'll delay the Settler a little bit to avoid whipping the galley in WPB. I think I'll put off any religious conversion until at least one more city gets Confucianism. I'd prefer 3 cities.
Concur with delaying religious conversion. Don't see it bringing us any immediate advantage, and not likely to spread without OR for missionaries. Moreover, the Germans are Buddhists -- wouldn't they be less likely to trade tech with us?
Here's the test game updated to T88 in case you guys want it.
It's definitely getting to be a pain to match it up with the real game. I ended up with a few differences:
1. Oak is 2
2. WPB is 5
3. Ombu is 1 turn behind in production (warrior should've finished last turn), however there's already 19
I'll work out a plan for the next 10 or so turns by Sunday night, I think. I'll delay the Settler a little bit to avoid whipping the galley in WPB. I think I'll put off any religious conversion until at least one more city gets Confucianism. I'd prefer 3 cities.
Agree, totally.
zbgayumn
Emperor
PPP
T88 to T98
Research
City Builds
Worker Actions
Unit Actions
North WB - Come back reveal East side of small island near Ombu
Exploring warrior - Work with scout to unfog remaining tiles
1st WB from WPB - Explore western island, continue west if possible
1st Settler - found 2 Fish + Elephant city
Scout - unfog remaining tiles
New Warriors/DSs - get garrison of 2 in Oak, 3 in Pine, 3 in Ombu, send 1 to island city
Diplomacy
Demands - yes for "stop trading with Stalin", stop and ask team otherwise
Focus EPs on Darius as best tech trader
Stop if Alpha becomes available and report to team on trading options (I really f'ing hope this is the case)
T88 to T98
Research
City Builds
Worker Actions
Unit Actions
North WB - Come back reveal East side of small island near Ombu
Exploring warrior - Work with scout to unfog remaining tiles
1st WB from WPB - Explore western island, continue west if possible
1st Settler - found 2 Fish + Elephant city
Scout - unfog remaining tiles
New Warriors/DSs - get garrison of 2 in Oak, 3 in Pine, 3 in Ombu, send 1 to island city
Diplomacy
Demands - yes for "stop trading with Stalin", stop and ask team otherwise
Focus EPs on Darius as best tech trader
Stop if Alpha becomes available and report to team on trading options (I really f'ing hope this is the case)
Questions:
Why no trade for horses and then production of a chariot?
Building a monastery, so are you planning to convert? If so, why?
Why build a Totem in Oak?
What's your rationale for building two cottages in Ombu, where you're planning to build a mine and then whip the lib in Ombu and run two scientists? No use for cottages for a while. Irrigating a grassland by the lake would seem more helpful. In general, wouldn't worker turns be better spent roading east (as noted) and roading forests in prep for eventual improvement?
Why no trade for horses and then production of a chariot?
Building a monastery, so are you planning to convert? If so, why?
Why build a Totem in Oak?
What's your rationale for building two cottages in Ombu, where you're planning to build a mine and then whip the lib in Ombu and run two scientists? No use for cottages for a while. Irrigating a grassland by the lake would seem more helpful. In general, wouldn't worker turns be better spent roading east (as noted) and roading forests in prep for eventual improvement?
zbgayumn
Emperor
Sorry, trade for horses should be in there. If he won't do it for two health resources though, I don't think we can make the trade. If we have horses, we trade out DS builds for chariots.
The monastery is partly in case we need to spread religion ourselves (at some point in the future) after we convert. And partly for lack of anything better to build. Same for the Totem in Oak. Will make for excellent Archery units when we get them, but not much use right away.
I have to agree the cottages aren't going to get worked soon. Still, there's lots of time to put roads on forests. I could send another worker to help with roading east. A farm in Ombu doesn't seem worthwhile when the city is already at +10 food and we haven't even built a LH yet.
Ombu will have a couple of scientist?
If that's the case, then It won't be good for it to fall below size 5; (3 Fish + 2 scientists).
Then, yep, ombu has 8 coastal tiles, so being size 10 could be quite optimal. Also, a cottage or a farm would be the difference between using it completly or mostly for
.We shall not lose of sight our objective of getting a conquering army by T 130 or so.
There are a great many forests to build roads on, and we may need workers to improve new city sites soon, so could argue that now is a good time to get some of it done, but I'm okay with your revised plan.
zbgayumn
Emperor
I don't want to convert yet. The founder of a religion will often stop sending missionaries if you convert, but will keep sending them if you don't. If we get Confu in Oak and Ombu as well, then I might convert. It would be best if we can wait until a Golden Age.
Certainly fine with that approach. Thought you couldn't build a monastery unless you had religion in the city.
Are you planning to play soon?
Where is NZ?
zbgayumn
Emperor
Hey, I just opened up the game to see if I could get the horse trade.
Darius refused Fish + Corn and Deer + Corn. He already has Fur, and we can't trade away our one Gem. The only combination I can still try is Fish + Corn + Deer. What do you think?
Darius refused Fish + Corn and Deer + Corn. He already has Fur, and we can't trade away our one Gem. The only combination I can still try is Fish + Corn + Deer. What do you think?
zbgayumn
Emperor
PPP
T88 to T98
Research
City Builds
Worker Actions
Unit Actions
North WB - Come back to reveal East side of small island near Ombu
Exploring warrior - Work with scout to unfog remaining tiles
1st WB from WPB - Explore western island, continue west if possible
1st Settler - found 2 Fish + Elephant city
Scout - unfog remaining tiles
New Warriors/DSs/Chariots - get garrison of 2 in Oak, 3 in Pine, 3 in Ombu, send 1 to island city
Diplomacy
Horse trade - Give Fish+Corn+Deer for Horse? Please vote.
Demands - yes for "stop trading with Stalin", stop and ask team otherwise
Focus EPs on Darius as best tech trader
Stop if Alpha becomes available and report to team on trading options (I really f'ing hope this is the case)
Updated with one less cottage, and possible substitutions for chariots if get the horse trade. I can play tomorrow, so let me know if we're good to go.
NZ - you would potentially be up next. Are you going to be ready?
T88 to T98
Research
City Builds
Worker Actions
Unit Actions
North WB - Come back to reveal East side of small island near Ombu
Exploring warrior - Work with scout to unfog remaining tiles
1st WB from WPB - Explore western island, continue west if possible
1st Settler - found 2 Fish + Elephant city
Scout - unfog remaining tiles
New Warriors/DSs/Chariots - get garrison of 2 in Oak, 3 in Pine, 3 in Ombu, send 1 to island city
Diplomacy
Horse trade - Give Fish+Corn+Deer for Horse? Please vote.
Demands - yes for "stop trading with Stalin", stop and ask team otherwise
Focus EPs on Darius as best tech trader
Stop if Alpha becomes available and report to team on trading options (I really f'ing hope this is the case)
Updated with one less cottage, and possible substitutions for chariots if get the horse trade. I can play tomorrow, so let me know if we're good to go.
NZ - you would potentially be up next. Are you going to be ready?
I'm for the trade. It may keep Germany from getting horses, and there are no other trades on the horizon. After ten turns, if good trades open up, we can cancel.
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zbgayumn
Emperor
Turnset Report T88-T98
Uploaded game save
The good news:
We have 3 chariots built
The not-so-good news:
Our exploration to the west hit a dead end
The western island is pretty crappy overall
We're a turn behind on founding the island city
The bad news:
Our unit costs are starting to really hurt our cash flow
Darius researched Monarchy after CoL. I was really expecting him to get Alpha.
The western island
New Darius city
Something Interesting
Buffy Log
Uploaded game save
The good news:
We have 3 chariots built
The not-so-good news:
Our exploration to the west hit a dead end
The western island is pretty crappy overall
We're a turn behind on founding the island city
The bad news:
Our unit costs are starting to really hurt our cash flow
Darius researched Monarchy after CoL. I was really expecting him to get Alpha.
The western island
Spoiler :
New Darius city
Spoiler :
Something Interesting
Spoiler :
Buffy Log
Spoiler :
So, is that skyscraper in Persepolis the UN?
Glad you got us rolling again, ZB. Do you want to continue through Currency, when there will be decision needed on the next tech?
Is Fractals ready to play?
Glad you got us rolling again, ZB. Do you want to continue through Currency, when there will be decision needed on the next tech?
Is Fractals ready to play?
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