Thanks also @sampsa and @soundjata! Should be able to squeeze in some turns later today, fingers crossed
Shadow Game: Immortal w/ Sitting Bull
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Had a quick look.
3 workers on a forest hill with no roads is too much.
2f2c cottage in capital should always be run. Why run 1 food tile over that?
Any reason 2nd fur not being improved?
Spanish now have horse and copper. At some point they will likely attack you.You will have border tension soon too. Annoyed towards you and other AI but you are closest.
Starting with 8 catapults is perfect for 1 turn bombard. You are likely building too many now as you have 2 more arriving from your capital and PP. Maybe grow Chaci Canyon now and switch from catapult beofre it reaches 20 hammers. I thought you were going to have 2-3 swords at start but I wouldn't delay your attack for that. You can always replace lost catapults but maybe 1-2 swords instead. If you lose 3 catapults on capital then you still have 5-6 left. Maybe 10 in total built was a good number. You lack the techs to bribe AI into war now. Mansa will be able to bribe others. So some risk here.
Mansa likely has 4th city east of capital. Worth a scout of that area.
3 workers on a forest hill with no roads is too much.
2f2c cottage in capital should always be run. Why run 1 food tile over that?
Any reason 2nd fur not being improved?
Spanish now have horse and copper. At some point they will likely attack you.You will have border tension soon too. Annoyed towards you and other AI but you are closest.
Starting with 8 catapults is perfect for 1 turn bombard. You are likely building too many now as you have 2 more arriving from your capital and PP. Maybe grow Chaci Canyon now and switch from catapult beofre it reaches 20 hammers. I thought you were going to have 2-3 swords at start but I wouldn't delay your attack for that. You can always replace lost catapults but maybe 1-2 swords instead. If you lose 3 catapults on capital then you still have 5-6 left. Maybe 10 in total built was a good number. You lack the techs to bribe AI into war now. Mansa will be able to bribe others. So some risk here.
Mansa likely has 4th city east of capital. Worth a scout of that area.
Unlikely to work IMO, and not worth much. Him having an extra unit in a city doesn't matter, it will get a lot of collateral anyway. Baiting is more of a HA/cuir-thing.
fair enough, misjudged that
I've made this mistake repeatedly this game - it's not me choosing inferior tiles, it's me forgetting to check which tiles are being worked, probably after a whip. Hard habit to break, I'll keep working on it.
considered it, then discounted it since it doesn't directly contribute to war goals - but then, couldn't think of anything else useful for that worker. Will improve the fur
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ok, won't worry it with it then
Thank you both for the feedback
pigswill
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Don't pillage iron, with DS much easier to face swords than skirmishers.
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You can trade for his dye, avoids capital unhappy next turn.
Deal will get cancelled later ofc but nice to have until your units move out.
I would road to Salamanca for traderoutes (and possibly resource gifts) with Izzy.
She won't stay annoyed for long if you gift her something..
resis are perfect and don't actually help her.
Deal will get cancelled later ofc but nice to have until your units move out.
I would road to Salamanca for traderoutes (and possibly resource gifts) with Izzy.
She won't stay annoyed for long if you gift her something..
resis are perfect and don't actually help her.
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Yup declare now your army is already huge (for this task).
Mound city should put
into a library now.
Chaco can 2-pop whip Cat soon and put overflow into a library too.
Cap & PP i would put on Cat slowbuilds (no more whipping).
No more Swords or other cleanup units needed for now (and hopefully never), most losses will be cats.
Unit costs are already thru the roof
We should think about getting Priesthood fast for a possible Monarchy trade.
Riverplains cottages are not bad if cities cannot grow anyways, your workers should now focus on river tiles for recovery.
Mound city should put
into a library now.Chaco can 2-pop whip Cat soon and put overflow into a library too.
Cap & PP i would put on Cat slowbuilds (no more whipping).
No more Swords or other cleanup units needed for now (and hopefully never), most losses will be cats.
Unit costs are already thru the roof
We should think about getting Priesthood fast for a possible Monarchy trade.
Riverplains cottages are not bad if cities cannot grow anyways, your workers should now focus on river tiles for recovery.
Good advice from Mylene. I don't think Mansa has horse so 3 spears is an overkill. Maybe leave one behind. Think AI need to be pleased with Mansa to be bribed. Willem is unlikely to be bribed if pleased with you. China can be bribed even if pleased with you. I suspect those in other religion won't be pleased with Mansa. China does have an archer in your city. So worth keeping a unit you can whip near there.
I wonder if you could of declared a turn earlier.
I wonder if you could of declared a turn earlier.
pigswill
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You certainly don't need melee/archers. You probably need a medic to reduce recovery time. Maybe west to Kumba Saleh then anti-clockwise finishing with barb city.
I think your army is so overwhelming you should split it. Half towards W half towards S. Then probably peace for currency and hopefully lots of
? Nobody has feudalism at that point probably so no peace vassal. Then finish off the 1-city Mansa.No, you won't want cheap crap like myst via trade. You don't need monarchy really, you need currency. Definitely take 3
pt from Qin for crabs.No, war is totally won so I wouldn't build units, unless you plan to go straight for the next victim. Build mostly research and/or run scientists.
Pillage tiles that you won't be using, or ones that you can re-improve soon. I'd pillage the mine at least, plains cottage, probably even the hamlet and build a farm.
Workers have mostly done their job in the core area. Start moving south to chop and improve tiles in your new land.
Very nice capital.15 gold shrine and granary!! 2 catapults and a sword was about as good as it would of got.
Tad too many units. Generally you just want units to replace lost catapults. Maybe leave warrior and a sword to defend city. His skirmisher might be annoying.
On his other cities maybe avoid bombarding as not on hills. Use 2-3 pults and attack with melee. Agree leave one city and grab best techs for peace.
Still no cottage on that capital grassland. Shame as 1f tiles slow growth.
Just keep an eye on Spanish as worst enemy. No stacks on your border yet.
Some point maybe send 1-2 cats and melee to barb city as that will give 100 gold or so. Maybe a worker too. Finish Mansa first. See what units you have left over. Those 2 far back catapults could head that way. Securing Mansa land and techs is priority.
Tad too many units. Generally you just want units to replace lost catapults. Maybe leave warrior and a sword to defend city. His skirmisher might be annoying.
On his other cities maybe avoid bombarding as not on hills. Use 2-3 pults and attack with melee. Agree leave one city and grab best techs for peace.
Still no cottage on that capital grassland. Shame as 1f tiles slow growth.
Just keep an eye on Spanish as worst enemy. No stacks on your border yet.
Some point maybe send 1-2 cats and melee to barb city as that will give 100 gold or so. Maybe a worker too. Finish Mansa first. See what units you have left over. Those 2 far back catapults could head that way. Securing Mansa land and techs is priority.
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