After the last two shadow games I played, I kinda dropped off the face of the Earth. I want to learn this game so I can apply the decision making skills from this game into real life! Now my problem in this game is as follows: I play emperor usually and most of time my strategy is to bulb education to get Cuirs and take over my continent before 1300 AD. Usually I get cuirs way later than I hope. I always wonder how it's possible to get them before 800 AD as I some some people here do. Even then most of my games either end with me getting DOW'ed for no reason by a neighbor while I'm trying to get to cuirs as quick as possible (usually I just have warriors). The games where I do succeed however turn into a drag and I either win a late 1800-1900s space race or I conquer and vassal the other continent for domination but usually by 1700 AD. Spoiler My past game : Before I start this shadow game, I was playing with Montezuma and made it to 1804 AD. I attached the save so you guys can look at it and tell me what you'd do in that position. How can I win that game? I don't know how the hell Mansa manages to get those techs so damn fast haha The one thing about this game is that it's the quickest I got cuirs ready in any game. Usually it's 1300 or 1400 AD that I get an army ready. I attached an 1110 AD save where I was right about to strike India just in case anyone wants to critique that one too. I also attached the 50 BC save too. I chopped an oracle in 1280 BC and popped Code of Laws with it in this game though I had trouble utilizing it fully by running scientists. I'll attach that save too for the curious. Anyone else who wants to play that map I attached the 4000 BC save too if anyone wants to take a crack at it though huts and events were on unfortunately and I don't know how to turn them off. (I wish I did in that game haha). Either way there has to be a lot of things I'm not doing right or utilizing based on those saves. I seriously appreciate anyone who takes the time to see those save games and list/critique what I was doing wrong throughout those saves (1280 BC, 50 BC, 1110 AD and 1804 AD) and what I could've done better. I either made a lot of little mistakes that snowballed or I made big ones. Anyhow, here's our third shadow game: Settings: - Emperor Difficulty - Random leader - Temperate Climate - Standard Size - Normal Speed - Low Sea Level - Continents with 7 AI instead of the usual 6 because...well...why not? - No huts or troll-vents They're the same as the game above minus tiki huts and events Spoiler 4000 B.C. : Ah the irony... Normally I get stuck with him. Now I am him! Is he any good to play as? Seems like a pretty decent start. Seems like a decent start. Irrigated rice is always good, and two fish foods which is good since I start with fishing. Too bad there's no irrigated pigs though. I moved my scout 2 SW to the forest hills and found grass sheep. I figure that's a good 2nd city site. Should I SIP or settle on the incense? Also the biggest problem I have is when I have a coastal start with fishing, do I build WB first or worker? Normally I always build a worker if there's better food on land then use my worker to chop the fishing boats. I figure worker is good here because of wet corn but you make the call. I'm tired of doing the same strategy and getting the same crappy results. I will stick to the game this time no matter what! Note: "Yo-Yo The Noob 4000 BC" is the current game. The past game is "Pro-boy The Noob."