To all talks "we should have planned this earlier" and "we need general strategy" I will say that it is not a good plan that cant be altered. Simply deciding "we will go for that wonder and we are selecting leader and nation to fit it" is not a good plan. What if you lose the wonder? Far better in my opinion is to have stable leader/nation choice and then see how the game develops and take decisions as the situation requires. We are (or at least I am) talking Pyramids from turn 65-68. And I was planning to get them by turn 88. Thats 20 turns of initial planning. 1/4 of the game so far? Or you mean we should not try for things which we did not talked and agreed before actually the game starts? But we never agreed on a single wonder before the game starts. Do this means we will just skip all wonders in this game?