Should the EU create it's own army and leave NATO

[AVN]

Inspired by this thread I wonder should the EU countries create it's own army and leave NATO ?

 

[stratego]

That's just an euphenism for breaking alliance with the US.

 

[AVN]

That's just an euphenism for breaking alliance with the US.

I'm not denying that
Personally I think that would be a good idea.

 

[newfangle]

Since I'm completely ignorant on this and many other subjects, my obvious response is "YES."

 

[BasketCase]

How (or if) the EU wants to build its military is their own business. Their leaders (and basic government structure) are a lot more trustworthy than, say, Iran.

 

[DBear]

Sure they should pay their way and maintain their own army, but they never will. How would they then pay for their socialism?

 

[Xiahou-Dun]

I voted "Yes" mainly because I see this as a way to cut back socialism in Europe.

 

[Perfection]

No, I want U.S. and Europe to be friends.

Why can't we be friends?

Though I have no problem with the EU creating its own army.

 

[Arminius]

I voted no. I think that it would be rediculous to abandon NATO. NATO does nothing, but protect Europe. If anyone attacks Europe, the US has to help. If the US attacked a single country in NATO (like France, cuz Americans seem to want to 'retrieve' the Statue of Liberty's little sister) it would unite them against the US, not to mention bring Russia into the conflict.

... ...

On second thought, yes they should leave NATO in the interest of world peace.

How would they then pay for their socialism?

 

[Zarn]

This would only further harm relations with the United States, which makes it worse for the world in general. There are alot of people that would love to see the US and Europe at each others throats. If you want more chaos, this should do the trick.

It also isn't a nice gesture towards Turkey or Canada...

 

[Goonie]

What are the possible benefits?

I do not see any. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

[Sims2789]

That's just an euphenism for breaking alliance with the US.

I completely agree. It would make it even easier for the United States to continue its imperialistic ambitions. Plus, I have a feeling that a pan-European Army would be weaker than the current combined forces of the EU.

 

[BasketCase]

You're forgetting several European nations are already helping the U.S. with our....."imperialistic ambitions".....in the Middle East.

Edit: departing NATO might make it easier for the U.S., or might allow the EU to assert itself more independently. Cause and effect are tricky beasts.....

 

[Shaihulud]

It'll be great for the EU to form their own army but why would they wat to leave Nato it makes no sense?

 

[classical_hero]

I can see what the end result of this will be and it does not look pretty for the rest of the world. It must be noted that this POV is from a Biblical perpective.

 

[BasketCase]

Uhh....more info please? Is Europe departing NATO one of the Seven Signs of the Apocalypse or something?

 

[CenturionV]

They probably should, its obvious they are the new future rivals of the US most likely, and it would be foolish to maintain a military alliance with possible future enemies.

 

[Shaihulud]

Only groups that are strong enough are rivals... and EU is not yet. And implication of rivalry doesn't equal enemies. I think Russia is strong enough to be a potential threat.

 

[Gelion]

AVN what good would it bring? I am for it only because NATO needs to be re-defined and EUA is one way of doing it...

 

[Winner]

I think we should "build" our own army and transform NATO into alliance of USA, EU and Canada (+Norway, Turkey and Island, but i expect they will join EU some day).

Breaking NATO can be contraproductive. An alliance of equal partners would be more benefical. West should stay firm, because Russia, China and India will surely try to challange its position in future.

(therefore i can't vote for any of offered answers to your question AVN, because I want both EU army and NATO, and I have opinion )