Should the US Invade Greenland (Denmark) & Panama
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But why exchange a Danish passport for an inferior US passport?
To go along with Trump's desire to rename the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America, Mexico's President Sheinbaum has proposed renaming the US as Mexican America.
innonimatu
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Are that pair of losers about to abandon their attempted theft of Kosovo from Serbia into the franco-german co-prosperity sphere?
Caesar of Bread
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Note that Trump mixed Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan with Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge last year.
BenitoChavez
What business is it of yours?
So Greenland is a part of Denmark. And Denmark is a part of NATO. And the US is a part of NATO. And if any member of NATO gets attacked, all of NATO has to come to their defense. So if the US invades, itʻs going to be at war with itself. 
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I think any conversation that involves some of the ridiculous things that Trump says are a complete waste of time for regular citizens. His inane suggestions do serve a purpose though as a distraction from the real issues like inflation or the cost of eggs when people focus on Greenland etc. The vast majority of what trump says will never come to fruition, not in the way he frames it at least. Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it... did Mexico pay one red cent for the wall?
banzay13
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Spoiler News from 2026 could be like this :
caketastydelish
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both legally and morally speaking we have no right of own Greenland nor the Panama Canal. Only a bully would take it by force please stop this madness ! I am ashamed as an American that this is even being considered
Verbose
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That's kind of the problem with Trump and the US – prior presidents could at least be shamed into not considering some BS stuff because of the kind of standards the US at least purports to hold itself too – but those are meaningless with Trump.
Thorgalaeg
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Trump himself is meaningless.
A nice thought, except that he's the incoming President of the United States. Again.
banzay13
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Danish officials say they don’t necessarily agree — a frank conversation about Trump’s remarks, rather than assuming he isn’t serious, will likely be the only way to stave off a crisis, they told CNN.
To that end, Danish Foreign Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen signaled on Wednesday that the country wants to discuss the issue more with the incoming Trump administration.
“We are open to a dialogue with the Americans on how we can possibly cooperate even more closely than we do to ensure that the American ambitions are fulfilled,” Rasmussen told reporters. The US has long worked closely with Denmark in the Arctic and in Greenland, where the US maintains its northernmost military base.
Greenland’s prime minister, Mute Egede, signaled on Tuesday that the territory does not want to engage in the political back-and-forth between the US and Denmark.
“Greenland belongs to the people of Greenland,” he said. “Our future and fight for independence is our business.”
Still, US and Danish officials say they don’t understand the incoming president’s obsession with acquiring Greenland, which Trump has called “an absolute necessity,” particularly because the US already has a decades-old defense agreement with the territory that has allowed the US to build up a significant military presence — including troops and radar systems — on the world’s largest island.
“Denmark is a stalwart NATO ally, and so long as Greenland remains part of the Kingdom of Denmark, as it is now, and part of NATO, then we’re not less secure in that situation,” the official said. But the US-Greenland relationship becomes more “ambiguous” if Greenland decides to declare independence, the official said.
So...
1. Push Denmark sell/gifted Greenland (you know, we have protected you so many years, but you don't spent 2% and blabla)
2. Greenland don't agree and declare independence
3. Invade Greenland, since you have important radar/base here
4. Profit. And you don't need pay to Denmark, since Greenland breakaway from them
Verbose
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He might be a harbinger of some kind of greater shift inside the US. Or just a glitch. Too soon to tell.
Josu
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I am starting to think that all this crap by Trump&Elon would be a brillliant background for an excellent distopy novel or TV show
Akka
Moody old mage.
Verbose
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It already is, as this is mediated to high heaven. It's "The IRL Apprentice", since it's Trump. Sheer fiction is what got him into the White House both the first and second time. Whether he can run the US like that without serious breakage is the open question. Whether he wants to is another.
He clearly does not understand what alliances do, or what allies are.
Trump is a walking id and a bully, too much of a populist to have an actual ideology beyond self-aggrandizement. Musk otoh has come out as a straight up Fascist.
Marla_Singer
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With the US officially considering expansion to non-US territories, that de facto means it no longer recognizes the principle of inviolability of borders which governed international law since world war 2.
And before some guy tells me that this principle never applied, it must be well-understood first. What it is saying isn't that a subdivision from a larger sovereign state cannot become independent from that state. It also doesn't say that a country cannot military intervene in a foreign one to overturn its governement. It says that a country cannot expand to a foreign territory without the consent of that territory. That is because Saddam Hussein violated that principle when he invaded Kuwait that he faced an international coalition against him. Also, when Russia invaded Crimea, and later the whole South East of Ukraine, that is the reason why he organized pseudo-referendums to justify the "consent" of invaded territories.
And before some guy tells me that this principle never applied, it must be well-understood first. What it is saying isn't that a subdivision from a larger sovereign state cannot become independent from that state. It also doesn't say that a country cannot military intervene in a foreign one to overturn its governement. It says that a country cannot expand to a foreign territory without the consent of that territory. That is because Saddam Hussein violated that principle when he invaded Kuwait that he faced an international coalition against him. Also, when Russia invaded Crimea, and later the whole South East of Ukraine, that is the reason why he organized pseudo-referendums to justify the "consent" of invaded territories.
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caketastydelish
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We shouldn't be messing with people who have done nothing to us, leave them alone we need to mind our own business. We are not entitled to Greenland. I am embarassed.
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