When statue of zeus changes hands during a war does it immediately act against the person it was juts taken from or is it only the person who attacked the person with zeus that gets the penalty and so if they then take it the penalty stops rather than changes to the previous owner.
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Simple question hopefully
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JujuLautre
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War Weariness accumulates. Statue of Zeus doubles that accumulation.
So let's say that you attack the owner of the statue. You get 50 points of WW which are doubles by the statue, so 100 points, before you take the city which contains it. In the same time, your opponent take 15 points of WW.
Then, you still are at 100/15, but your opponent <ill take double WW as long as you control the statue. So if you take 2 points you will have 102, and if he takes 2, he will have 19.
Is that ok?
So let's say that you attack the owner of the statue. You get 50 points of WW which are doubles by the statue, so 100 points, before you take the city which contains it. In the same time, your opponent take 15 points of WW.
Then, you still are at 100/15, but your opponent <ill take double WW as long as you control the statue. So if you take 2 points you will have 102, and if he takes 2, he will have 19.
Is that ok?
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This is not quite right. As of patch 3.13 at least. The SoZ doubles the War Weariness, not the Accumulation.
If you attack a Civ that has SoZ and you have 800 War wearines Against them, it means you accumulated 400 WW by combat actions, which is doubled by the SoZ to 800. The Moment you take the SoZ city, your WW against the Civ drops Back to 400. You loose the city again, and you are back at 800. (Assuming taking/loosing did not cause extra WW for the moment)
I do not know what happens to his WW, as there is no way to look it up, but i assume it works by the same rules. However, if you are attacking 'he' will not have much WW anyway, and also the AI gets discount on WW anyway.
If you attack a Civ that has SoZ and you have 800 War wearines Against them, it means you accumulated 400 WW by combat actions, which is doubled by the SoZ to 800. The Moment you take the SoZ city, your WW against the Civ drops Back to 400. You loose the city again, and you are back at 800. (Assuming taking/loosing did not cause extra WW for the moment)
I do not know what happens to his WW, as there is no way to look it up, but i assume it works by the same rules. However, if you are attacking 'he' will not have much WW anyway, and also the AI gets discount on WW anyway.
JujuLautre
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I do not see this change in the 3.13 change list; are you sure about this fact?
Not completely related to the question but... Is it me or the Statue of Zeus doesn't become obsolete? If that is so, I find it rather funny. "Master Montezuma, we do not want to war with Khan anymore, we are frustrated, we will not send our marines and fighter jets overseas considering this rusted statue of Zeus is competely making us fear him".
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I am sure about that - just had it in a game, where i 'overlooked' my opponent having SoZ. Accumulated quite a WW, half of which was gone at the moment i took the Wonder.
I added the note about 3.13, since i never tired it before that patch.
It does not become obsolete, but i think it is one of the less 'funny' things Civ4 has to offer... Even with Marines possesion of the SoZ could still indicate superiour culture spirituality or whatever... As i am thinking about it... isnt it funny that the Culture and Power of the fighting Civs has no effect on WW/
I added the note about 3.13, since i never tired it before that patch.
It does not become obsolete, but i think it is one of the less 'funny' things Civ4 has to offer... Even with Marines possesion of the SoZ could still indicate superiour culture spirituality or whatever... As i am thinking about it... isnt it funny that the Culture and Power of the fighting Civs has no effect on WW/
