Since you dont get that kind of news in English media....

outh Ossetia and Abkhazia should be allowed independance


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Gelion

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South Ossetia and Abkhazia have asked the international community to recognise them as independant states (following the Kosovo presedent).
I can only provide links in Russian atm (as it only happened today, BBC cannot yet make up their mind on the issue), but links in English will follow.

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If kosovo get's independence then so can South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Infact they have more of a reason to be independent then kosovo.

BTW you mispelt "south ossetia" (you forgot the S in South) :lol:
 
If kosovo get's independence then so can South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Infact they have more of a reason to be independent then kosovo.

BTW you mispelt "south ossetia" (you forgot the S in South) :lol:

Yeah, another mistake and it would sound like "ouch! Ossetia!" :)
 
As posted in the poll-free thread:

I don't know about South Ossetia but Abkhazia is richer and more dynamic than the rest of Georgia and it's been de facto independent for more than ten years. Georgia stands to lose much more than Abkhazia by independence, but it's not like Georgia is capable of getting it back anyway.
 
As posted in the poll-free thread:

I don't know about South Ossetia but Abkhazia is richer and more dynamic than the rest of Georgia and it's been de facto independent for more than ten years. Georgia stands to lose much more than Abkhazia by independence, but it's not like Georgia is capable of getting it back anyway.
Ossetia if a turkic speaking enclave in Georgia and Russia. North Ossetia being in Russia, and south Ossetia being in Georgia.

I wonder if it would be possible to fuse the two Ossetia's into 1 big Ossetia, of course the Russian Govornment wouldn't allow it... :p
 
according to a look at Wikipedia, Abkhazia was apparently responsible for "ethnic cleansing of Georgia" in the early 1990s.
 
Yeah after the war about 300 000 ethnic Georgians fled and aren't allowed back in.
 
Okay I'm breaking off from the rest of the US! Everything within 5 feet of my apartment is sovereign Leonel territory!
 
Will the rest of the world recognize the independence of Toronto, or Ontario (minus ottawa), either one? Cause we BOTH get shafted by the people above us. toronto got no funding for public transit, instead montreal, vancouver, and PETERBOROUGH got funding. Toronto is in debt and getting nothing. Ontario loses TONS of money each year supporting the other provinces. ONTARIO FOR ONTARIANS! We should make a one issue federal party, the Ontario Blok. (Bloc and Block are both taken by Quebec and Western Canada, so we get Blok)
 
South Ossetia, yes. Abkhazia, yes only because it changes nothing.

And then NATO should open bases in Georgia and dump aid there.

Will the rest of the world recognize the independence of Toronto, or Ontario (minus ottawa), either one? Cause we BOTH get shafted by the people above us. toronto got no funding for public transit, instead montreal, vancouver, and PETERBOROUGH got funding. Toronto is in debt and getting nothing. Ontario loses TONS of money each year supporting the other provinces. ONTARIO FOR ONTARIANS! We should make a one issue federal party, the Ontario Blok. (Bloc and Block are both taken by Quebec and Western Canada, so we get Blok)

I think an Ontario Bloc would unite Canada in a vote to secede from Ontario.

And Ontario doesn't get shafted like Alberta does.
 
NOBODY gets shafted like Alberta does. But we get seriously shafted. We put in WAY more money than we get back. Truthfully, we should take Saskatchewan and Manitoba and leave. Sask. for the uranium and wheat, manitoba cause it is in between.
 
NOBODY gets shafted like Alberta does. But we get seriously shafted. We put in WAY more money than we get back. Truthfully, we should take Saskatchewan and Manitoba and leave. Sask. for the uranium and wheat, manitoba cause it is in between.

Wouldn't be easier to just dump Quebec? Thats where all the problems come from.......:mischief:


I say all these little micro states should be allowed independence. Those that can will prosper and those that can't can see the error of their ways and beg for help.
 
But then we ask the rich american's will have to help them because it is our duty or some other stupid thing like that and I don't want to help them. In this day and age with things like NAFTA and the European Union we should be looking for ways to peacefully unify the world not break it up into smaller and smaller bits.
 
I don't really know all that much about these situations. Looking at it without more info, I don't see why it would be a problem. But obviously, I'd need to know more.
 
Okay I'm breaking off from the rest of the US! Everything within 5 feet of my apartment is sovereign Leonel territory!

Being an apartment, are you then not claiming 5 feet of your neighbors' sovereign territory? I see an international incident, claims of irredentism, possible ethnic cleansing, NATO intervention, and an eventual UN peacekeeping force. Do you have room for a battalion of Fijian peacekeepers in your kitchen?
 
Okay I'm breaking off from the rest of the US! Everything within 5 feet of my apartment is sovereign Leonel territory!

I'm going to declare myself the benevolent dicator of Michiganland and sinlge handedly declare the north half of Illinois independant. My reason? Religious and ethnic.
 
No-one has any political reasons to back them up, so I don't see how they'll ever hope to have the same amount of success.
 
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