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sioux break away from US

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Just read that in a French newspaper and found a couple links in English:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1942134/posts

THE Lakota Indians, who gave the world legendary warriors Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse, have withdrawn from treaties with the US.
"We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us," Indian rights activist Russell Means said.
A delegation of Lakota leaders has delivered a message to the State Department, and said they were unilaterally withdrawing from treaties they signed with the federal government of the US...
The group also visited the Bolivian, Chilean, South African and Venezuelan embassies, and would continue on their diplomatic mission and take it overseas in the coming weeks and months.
Lakota country includes parts of the states of Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and Wyoming.
The new country would issue its own passports and driving licences, and living there would be tax-free provided residents renounce their US citizenship...
The treaties signed with the US were merely "worthless words on worthless paper"...
"This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of the constitution," which states that treaties are the supreme law of the land...
"It is also within the laws on treaties passed at the Vienna Convention and put into effect by the US and the rest of the international community in 1980. We are legally within our rights to be free and independent,"...
The Lakota relaunched their journey to freedom in 1974, when they drafted a declaration of continuing independence...
Thirty-three years have elapsed since then because "it takes critical mass to combat colonialism and we wanted to make sure that all our ducks were in a row,"...
One duck moved into place in September, when the United Nations adopted a non-binding declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples...

Is that the act of a lone guy that will have no consequences, or is it the start of something more serious? Can they really pull that off?
 
if they want to try I have a feeling it wont work...remember the civil war?

Not to mention there probably wouldn't be much support for this. Many Indian reservations are very very poor, and the ones that arent usually have casinos to thank. I have a feeling leaving the USA would piss off some people enough to close their casinos and the US would stop helping the poor reservations. I guess they could rebuild the casinos on tribal lands...but those are usually far away from the big cities and would get much less business.

This would be against monetary interests...which usually dictate human interests.
 
Cool stuff. How much land do they control?
 
Good luck to them.
 
Wow.

Good luck...

Your casino's won't save you.
 
They might bank roll the service tho.. tax free!!!
 
But is it something serious? I've never heard of that guy before and the fact that I can't find a decent link in English makes me dubious about the whole thing...
 
I hope this is a joke...seriously. Messing up our maps like this? I say invade them.

It probably isnt real or it would be all over the news here.
 
Yeah, why isnt American News crawling all over this?
 
They have some legal ground here. They signed treaties with the U.S. government as a sovereign nation, and there is a Lakota nation today, obviously.
On the other hand, their independence in the times of signing of treaties wasn't recognised by the international community, which considered Lakota lands to be part of USA in the time when the treaties were signed.
This is a tricky legal question, it all depends how far you'll go with the principle of national self-determination.
 
remember the episode of family guy where Peter decides his house is his own country? It'll be like that.

If you leave, we're not giving you power or water. You'll come back in 2 weeks.
 
Russell Means? Where have I heard that name before?
 
finally. the indian people actually stand up agaisnt the immigrints.
 
Why was Masquerouge reading Free Republic? :confused:

This is indeed a non-story. They started attempting to be independent in 1974. I don't see the latest events as that big of a deal and it's more a PR stunt than anything.

Russell Means? Where have I heard that name before?

Last of the Mohicans. This is the same dude that was in that movie.
 
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