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Skyrim - The Elder Scrolls V

Discussion in 'All Other Games' started by PeteAtoms, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    So... why did the elves go homicidal crazy in the first place?
     
  2. DaemonDD

    DaemonDD It's a snekcess!

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    Because they realized that they had enough power to attack the empire really. It was also because they hated the fact that a human was one of the divines, and they wanted to ban Talos worthshipping from the empire in order to reduce his state to that of an ancient hero instead.
    It really wouldn't be so bad if they weren't set on killing everyone who disagreed though. It's mainly their attitudes towards anything but high elves that I really don't like. They even openly say it to you if you're asking for information or something.
     
  3. Maniacal

    Maniacal the green Napoleon

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    And if the Stormcloaks succede in breaking Skyrim away from the Empire, it further weakens Tamriel's ability to stop a Thalmor invasion as Skyrim and the Empire wouldn't be working together very well if at all. Although unless they bring in DLC about that it won't affect your character in Skyrim.
     
  4. Love

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    It's interesting in how they will deal with these choices in future games. Such as the civil war and
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    destroy/not destroy dark brotherhood
     
  5. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    There are a number of reasons, really. Kraz is much better versed in it than I am, but one of the main reasons the Mer hate Talos/Tiber Septim so much is that the figure is associated with a character in Mer lore who is directly responsible for the Mer losing their true immortality
     
  6. SS-18 ICBM

    SS-18 ICBM Oscillator

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    Well if the other games aren't set or partly set in Skyrim then it wouldn't matter much.
     
  7. uat2d

    uat2d ಠ_ಠ

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    What do you mean? The Empire will just continue to bow down to the Thalmor, even though everyone wants to continue fighting!

     
  8. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    So, what, they're Televanni, but even more power mad and racist?
     
  9. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    Again, you can't really blame them. They just finished getting their asses kicked by the Thalmor, from the perspective of the Empire, they were lucky to get off with just the White-Gold Concordat. In the post-war period they probably weren't in very much of a position to enforce their will over Hammerfell who didn't want to end the war (much like with the Stormcloaks, it's very obvious they don't really grasp the full weight of what is going on outside of their own little desert. They had to release Hammerfell, or risk further infuriating the Thalmor, at a time where the really, REALLY can't afford to do something like that. Anyone who genuinely dislikes the empire probably hasn't done much research on the history of the 4th era and is just going on the basis of the (extremely biased) opinions of the separatist Nords.

    Hell, the Empire dude says it in the very first town: "What the Stormcloaks don't realize is the Empire is the only thing keeping the Thalmor from taking over Skyrim"
     
  10. Evie

    Evie Pronounced like Eevee

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    One thing to keep in mind about that timeline. The reason the Redguard were able to withstand the Aldmeri is because the empire had bled them dry (the army occupying Cyrodiil was entirely destroyed by imperial forces) (bleeding itself even drier in turn) in the war that led to the concordat in the first place (apparently, Hammerfell did not commit its full force to the empire).

    And given that the Thalmor notes explicitly on their dossier on him that they want Ulfric rebelling, it's hard to see how his rebellion is all that effective against the Thalmor.

    Really, though, on the Thalmor, the choice is basically between a Gestapo-Run French Resistance, and a Vichy France (that's choke-full of Oscar Schindlers). I just hope at some point not too far away we get a DLC or even TES VI that involves the Dragonborn going Inglorious Basterds on the Thalmor.
     
  11. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    The notes also state that it isn't in the Thalmor's interest for the rebellion to succeed. I think the rebellion could be successful if the Dragonborn oversaw a speedy conquest of Skyrim, and if that rebellion somehow turned into a larger reconquest of Cyrodiil (à la Tiber Septim v. 2.0, which the Dovahkin is repeatedly put forward as in the main arc), the Thalmor's situation could be greatly put at risk.

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    In fact the above is also pretty much the best way to justify killing Paarthurnax if you opt to do so after killing Alduin, as a fully recovered Blades will be infinitely more useful in the context of reestablishing the empire than the dragons could ever be, regardless of whether or not Paarthurnax manages to bring them all under his wing.


    But yeah, I'd definitely love to see some DLC that adds some Mercrushin' in the form of attacking the Thalmor. That and a bring Winterhold back to its former glory are the ones I'd really like to see. My roommate also wants to see a join the Forsworn subarc, and I agree. That would be rather fun, especially since it makes no sense for you to basically be the instrument of the revitalization of the rebellion and yet you're still "kill on sight" status for the vast majority of the Forsworn.
     
  12. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    I'm fairly sure that if a guy can take down Alduin, he can lead a bunch of bloodthirsty Nords to victory over a bunch of evil hippies.
     
  13. Heretic_Cata

    Heretic_Cata We're gonna live forever

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    Are there more than 30 Crimson whatsitnamed in the Blackreach ?
    I accidentally one of them :rudolf: and i'm done with about 3/4 of exploration.
     
  14. Yui108

    Yui108 Deity

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    Isn't the empire basically restricted to Skyrim and Cyrodil now anyways? Hammerfell is in rebellion and occupied, and all the mer regions are independent or destroyed right?
     
  15. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    What about High Rock and the uninvaded half of Morrowind?

    And, um, Solstheim?
     
  16. Heretic_Cata

    Heretic_Cata We're gonna live forever

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    Huge relevant map:
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  17. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    Cyrodil looks desolate compared to everything else.

    Oh, wait, it was desolate.
     
  18. Love

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    I was thinking more of dark brotherhood since it's the last branch.. But I guess you're siding with them anyhow since destroying them is not as obvious as joining.
     
  19. SuperBeaverInc.

    SuperBeaverInc. Groucho

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    Anyone know how Azura's Star works? I did the quest and was given it, but its not trapping souls.
     
  20. Lord of Elves

    Lord of Elves Suede-Denim Secret Police

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    Cyrodiil is heavily implied to be an agrarian heartland, outside of the major metropolitan areas. The "desolate" effect you're seeing is more likely the forests being chopped down for comparatively-large scale farming, than anything else, or certainly any lack of arable farmland (which as I said, is quite the opposite of the situation).
     

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