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Slight inaccurate things, small things that bother you

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by NintendoTogepi, Jul 12, 2008.

  1. Roy123

    Roy123 Chieftain

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    I am probably alone here but it can never quite get how America can be a civilization in 4000 BC. The whole idea of America (The United States of...) is so inextricably a product of the Enlightenment...I have trouble grocking it out of context whereas one can always imagine an ancient civ making it into the modern world (even if they didn't quite make it intact in real life). So I never play America (besides the fact that their uu comes too late in the game to be relevant).

    I also find it slightly odd that I can get such good feedback and information from scouts in 3,000 BC who are 1,000 miles from my capital. But it's just a game...I think
     
  2. Jongpo

    Jongpo Chieftain

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    manchester isn't a top english city.. i've read some earlier posts speculating that cities may have been given precedence based on historical rather than practical or modern significance (i.e. hastings, thebes), and it makes sense, but still...manchester played such a huge part in the industrial revolution, and even though that's relatively recent history, it's impact isn't reduced (in fact, quite the opposite..)
     
  3. Comrade Alex

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    Yeah, the English cities list is just stupid.

    Hastings? Eh? Presumably because of the battle of Hastings, which didn't even occur that close to Hastings itself.
    Where the hell is Pevensey, if Hastings is included?


    Liverpool and Manchester are way too far down the list. Industrial revolution, home-boy..
     
  4. Saim

    Saim King

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    So did the Mughal empire - however both the Mughals and Mauryans lacked Sri Lanka and the very southern tip of continental India. Only the British controlled the whole subcontinent - and even they didn't control Afghanistan so depending on your definition they might have not controlled the whole thing.
     
  5. MqsTout

    MqsTout Warlord

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    * People discussing realism when game play fun and balance are more important.

    Though I do have to say, I wish the order in which city names were used would be randomized.
     
  6. TheDS

    TheDS Regular Riot

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    Not all UUs and UBs are intended to be awesome in all games. If you start in the Modern era, America is quite powerful and the others are quite less so. (Germany fits the bill too.) It's no different that choosing a map with a lot of water and then being Dutch or Portugal, or a Pangaea with 18 civs and then being Monty.
     
  7. Ninjazn

    Ninjazn Chieftain

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    Afghanistan was never part of the Indian subcontinent, so I don't know why you included that? I don't really count the Mughal empire as even "Indian" though, they were invaders like the British.
     
  8. Angst

    Angst Rambling and inconsistent

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    Kinda my point. :p But the Macedonians of that age were definately Greek.
     
  9. Wodan

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    Why not just rename them in the xml files? No big deal. ;)
     
  10. Desert-Fox

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    * Quechua was not an unit, it was a native american language. Perhaps Firaxis couldn't make up better name, like if Panzers would be Germans :D
    * Native Americans, it's like Indians... Aztecs, Incas were also Native Americans, I think they should be renamed as Sioux.
    * Vikings never had horns, maybe Europeans saw that ear covers were lifted up and looked like horns from far away but still they never had horns.
    * Holy Roman Empire, it is like to make Soviet Union or 3rd Reich as a separate Civilization.
    * English UU would be better it would be Man O War(Frigate with 12 strength, can carry 2 people).
    * Roman UU should be Legionary.
    * Research Institute for Russians doesn't make sense, they do not research anything themselves now, in modern times they make copies only. But perhaps KGB bureau should be their UB instead of Security Bureau or Intelligence Agency(either of them) and you can add more spy specialists, perhaps 4.

    And less serious.

    Arabs UU - Not camel archer but Suicide Terrorists, replace Spy, have mission to 95% success, cost espionage points but spy is 100% destroyed.
     
  11. Swein Forkbeard

    Swein Forkbeard Nintendo Fan

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    What's most inaccurate about Civ4? Easy, the fact that it has a 93% average at Gamerankings when it's not even a game, but a life ruiner, that has no fun until you dig past the giant bogdown at the later eras. It ruined my life; I could have been playing Mario, or Zelda, or Metroid, or Final Fantasy, or Warcraft, or Castlevania, or Knights of the Old Republic, or Total War, or Fire Emblem, or Advance Wars, or Prince of Persia, or...the list goes on and on, not even including series like GTA, Half-Life, Halo, Metal Gear, etc. because I am not old enough. How could one possibly like Civ4 more than any of the aforementioned game series? Replayability? Sure, that's the ONLY advantage it has on those game series, and it's not even FUN, not even a GAME, but A LIFE DESTROYER. The other game series are games where you'll have FUN for a change, so you'll want to come back. But, no, instead you guys just force yourselves to bog down through Civ's endgame and witness constantly repetitive graphics, sound, and gameplay, destroying THE VERY HEART AND SOUL OF GAMING. Think about it. Do you want to play a game, or a life-ruiner?
     
  12. BurnEmDown

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    I do if I got some spare time :p
     
  13. Saim

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    1. True.
    2. The thing is the Mughal's capitals where Kabul, Delhi and Shahjahanabad, all in the subcontinent except for Kabul.
     
  14. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    Swein, pls..... besides missing the point of the thread, if Civ ruined your life ( a thing that I doubt, because if you don't have age to buy GTA, the only way you can ruin your life is dyeing ), maybe you should consider if it is the game or you that have the fault ;)
     
  15. Joshua368

    Joshua368 Warmongering builder

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    Probably got him kicked off the baseball team or something. :p
     
  16. Wodan

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    I don't think they play baseball in Sweden. Curling or something, maybe. ;)
     
  17. Angst

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    Lol, what do you think about nations like Denmark then?
     
  18. NintendoTogepi

    NintendoTogepi Noble Pacifist

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    Okay, here's another. I hate the maps that have no water, such as oasis, highlands, or lakes with low sea level, with the round map wrapping.

    Such as a planet would be a terrible wasteland with no oceans! :mad: It doesn't make sense.

    This is a tad more accurate:



    But still it would be even MORE desert-like. :lol:
     
  19. r_rolo1

    r_rolo1 King of myself

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    MadMax ...... :nuke: :lol:
     
  20. Gooblah

    Gooblah Heh...

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    1) The Muslim Holy Shrine is the Masjid al-Haram. However, the graphics show the Dome of Rock, which is in Jerusalem, while the titular building is in Mecca. What?!

    2) The Jaguar Warrior is the Aztec Unique Unit. In reality, the Eagle Warriors were the top dogs of the Aztec military.

    3) Alexander the Great is a leader of Greece. He was Macedonian. There's a difference. They spoke slightly different dialects of Greek, and were culturally separate from the rest of Greece, viewed as inferior.

    4) Mythical Leaders. Gilgamesh, Ragnar, etc, etc.

    5) Implementation of religion:

    The order for religions should go Hinduism-Buddhism-Judaism-Confucianism-Daoism-Christianity-Islam (IIRC)

    Instead, it goes: Buddhism-Hinduism-Confucianism/Judaism (order can be switched)- Christianity- Daoism-Islam
     

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