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Small Civ, big enemy

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Strategy & Tips' started by blac, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. blac

    blac Warlord

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    So I'm playing for a cultural victory and I currently have two cities. The biggest power is Russia who has more then double my points right now. I'm on my way to the utopia project right now but if I start to build it will they realize this and attack me so I don't win? Because I won't stand a chance if they do. Any thoughts on how the AI react to this?
     
  2. LuCypher73

    LuCypher73 Chieftain

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    When I did the cultural victory with ghandi i had 3 cities only. Oligarchy and himejis helped immensely. and artillery...lots of artillery spread out along the roads after railroads and you can pelt to death anything that enters your lands with all them defensive bonuses. I ended up fighting till the last turn just bombarding everything that entered my territory with everything I had..russia was on that map too they are always a pain getting real big and ramping up the tech race to levels hard to match with only a handful of cities
     
  3. blac

    blac Warlord

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    They are already at rifles and I am worried, although I'm friends with them and they seem to like me
     
  4. LuCypher73

    LuCypher73 Chieftain

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    I only play on emperor so its likely different higher up, but I find its real important to do whatever you can on your way to cultural victory to maintain a tight defensive military and keep pace with techs helps that alot. If I go piety I lose rationalism so I generally go down patronage to where you get science from cs allies and use them to booster me. Puppeting is another way to make up the difference. Your few cities should be populous as possible though maritimes and maybe granarys and watermills. If you want rationalism it can be very helpful and just as valid on this level for cultural victory but you will want free speech and maybe again some patronage to get a bunch of culturals hooked up to make up the difference. Also remember mountains will give an extra science building + 1 specialist slot I believe. While great artists would probably be desirable for a tight cultural victory its still rather easy going on emperor and below and you can just prioritize scientists to help keep pace and just pay a lil extra maintenance for some cultural buildings.
     
  5. vexing

    vexing knows

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    no, ai has no reaction to cultural victory.
     
  6. NukeAJS

    NukeAJS King

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    Out of the 3ish cultural victories I've gotten. I can confirm this.

    The AI usually reacts poorly when pursuing these victories from most likely to attack to least likely:

    Domination
    Diplomacy
    Culture
    Space Race

    Domination because you're a warmongering menace! That and a lot of civs think they can win the game this way.

    Diplomacy because getting those votes usually means bad diplomatic hits due to stealing CSs.

    Culture because you're usually behind in tech/military.

    Space race because, if you've played your diplomacy correctly, you have very few or no negatives regarding diplomacy, have the highest teched units, and have a larger military than a cultural play.
     
  7. NukeAJS

    NukeAJS King

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    Himeji and oligarchy are great for this "turtle" win. It can be made better with nationalism too.
     
  8. War_Pig

    War_Pig Warlord

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    I know when i tried cultural they didn't attack.
     
  9. Mr Jack

    Mr Jack Chieftain

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    H's Castle + Oligarchy are key factors, as mentioned above. Placing your troops for effective defence is also important.

    Another thing to consider doing, if possible, is allying with suitably placed CSs. They'll take out Russian units before they can even make it to your lands.
     
  10. Fizpez2

    Fizpez2 Chieftain

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    The first King/Cultural win I got I was paranoid the entire time that I would get jumped as I neared victory so I wasted some time getting artillery up so I could try and hold them off - never happened.

    I've won OCC cultural wins at Emprorer - no military to speak of. I assume I may have gotten lucky with my nearest neighbors each time but even Civs that normally end up hating (Monty) were Friendly the whole way.
     

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