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Smoking weed can make you kill Jews, it turns out.

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Mouthwash, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:26 AM.

  1. Mouthwash

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    https://www.thejc.com/news/world/french-prosecutors-drop-murder-charges-jewish-kindergarten-teacher-sarah-halimi-killer-kobili-traoré-1.493649
    Basically, this guy smoked a joint, then broke into a Jewish teacher's home, beat her, and threw her off the balcony while shouting "I killed the Shaitan". French authorities did not recognize it as an antisemitic crime. Could've happened to anyone, I guess!
     
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  2. Narz

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    Yeah this is a man bites dog story. How many mofos flip out and commit murder while drunk?
     
  3. Farm Boy

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    Something like half of US murders. It doesn't seem to be particularly effective defense tho.
     
  4. Socrates99

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    Correlation isn't causation right? That psychedelic episode from smoking cannabis line cracks me up.
     
  5. Mouthwash

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    I guess Philando Castile's death was also a man bites dog story, and not worth discussing.

    It's more noteworthy because he's being let off for it, in case you didn't get that part.
     
  6. rah

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    It is France. This would never happen in the US, unless it was a black Jew of course.
     
  7. Berzerker

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    A drug dealer and addict says pot made him murder someone?

    Sounds like he had a religiously induced psychotic episode, not sure anti-semitism had anything to do with it.
     
  8. Lexicus

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    Seems ridiculous to drop the murder charge in this case. But I don't see how he is being "let off for it," presumably if it was determined to be psychosis or whatever, he will be involuntarily committed to an institution for a lengthy period of time.
     
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    Hitler tripped and fell on his head, oh looks like justice was done.

    “I felt persecuted. When I saw the Torah and a chandelier in her home I felt oppressed. I saw her face transforming.”
     
  10. Berzerker

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    oops, I read that and suffered a pot induced momentary lapse of reason and forgot

    Otoh he was already freaking out before entering her apartment, even scared a family into locking themselves in a bathroom. Course that doesn't mean anti-semitism wasn't a trigger for how he behaved in her apartment.
     
  11. Lexicus

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    wat m8
     
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  12. AmazonQueen

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    Is he?
    The article says charges are being dropped but also says it will be decided if he goes on trial on 19/12.
    Also being committed to a psychiatric institution means indefinite confinement, not the same as walking free.
     
  13. Narz

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    What's the connection? I dont follow

    People escape jail due to reasons of insanity all the time (and often part of the defense is that they are on too much/too little/the wrong drugs).

    What exactly is your point?
     
  14. rah

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    Yeah, I'm saving up my but I was on too much metformin defense.
     
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    Yeah, there's no way this guy won't be locked away for a long time. It's just a mental institution instead of a prison.

    Also, Hitler didn't smoke weed. He was a meth guy.
     
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    Justice means being held to account for his actual crime. Even if he gets a different sentence or ends up in an institution, that's not true justice.

    Also, there seems to be a desire to not make an issue out of antisemitic violence, much like police shootings in the United States can't involve racial animus. The perpetrator is always given the benefit of the doubt. So it's a giant middle finger to French Jews as a whole.

    It is generally considered wrong to end someone's life for no good reason. Even worse if your reason was that they belonged to a certain ethnic group.
     
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    I think it's interesting that you believe you are better-positioned to determine this than the French judicial system...
     
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    Not by the French courts. They classified it as an anti-Semitic attack according to the Wikipedia article you link to.
     
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    What could have produced this sudden respect for the system? Surely you oppose antisemitismandallotherformsofracism.

    By the police and politicians, yes.

    EDIT: Here's a Tabletmag article with details I missed. It's even worse than I thought.
     
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  20. Hygro

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    Psychosis can send you many places, including into the paranoia of others that prior to the episode you didn’t have. In this guys case, it was to something very anti Semitic. He’s a murderer and who cares if it was weed or not, can’t let weed be a defense like that. Maybe a mitigating something with the right examination. But murderers must be addressed.
     

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