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So, who's next: Iran or North Korea?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by joespaniel, Mar 9, 2003.

  1. joespaniel

    joespaniel Unescorted Settler

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    I suppose they could just make a right turn at Baghdad and keep going.

    U.S. Cites Concern on Iran Nuclear Program

    By Caren Bohan

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two senior U.S. officials expressed concern on Sunday about Iran's nuclear program and said the United States has urged the United Nation's nuclear watchdog agency to take a closer look at it.




    Time Magazine, in its latest edition, reported that Iran had moved closer to operation of a plant to enrich uranium than it has previously revealed.


    While he did not specifically comment on the Time report, Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) said that the International Atomic Energy Agency has been surprised by the extent of Iran's efforts to acquire nuclear weapons.


    "Right now, the IAEA is discovering, as a result of information that intelligence made available, that Iran has a far more robust program for the development of nuclear weapons than the IAEA thought," Powell told NBC's "Meet the Press."


    National security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said on ABC's "This Week" that the United States had talked to Russia, China and the atomic energy agency "about the need to get into Iran and to understand what is going on there."


    The comments came as the United States was signaling its readiness to go to war -- with or without the support of the United Nations (news - web sites) -- to disarm Iran's neighbor, Iraq (news - web sites).


    The United States, Britain and Spain are urging a March 17 ultimatum for Iraqi compliance with U.N. demands that Baghdad give up its suspected chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.


    But the proposal faces strong opposition from France and other veto-wielding U.N. Security Council members, prompting a final, intense round of diplomacy before this week's vote. Iraq denies it has such weapons.


    Iran, which Washington has branded an "axis of evil" member along with Iraq and North Korea (news - web sites), last month unveiled plans for an ambitious nuclear energy program. But it has insisted its aims are purely peaceful.


    Mohammed ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, visited Iran in February and welcomed signs of greater transparency over its nuclear power program.


    But ElBaradei urged Iran to sign up for the IAEA's "Additional Protocol," which would allow inspectors freer access to nuclear sites with little prior warning.


    Amid the Iraq crisis, Washington and the IAEA have not seen eye-to-eye on evidence surrounding whether Baghdad has revived its nuclear weapons program.


    On Friday, ElBaradei shot down allegations Iraq tried to revive its nuclear arms program and said fake documents backed U.S. claims Baghdad had tried to buy uranium to make bombs.


    Responding on "Meet the Press" to ElBaradei's report about Iraq, Powell said: "We have to be a little careful about nuclear weapons programs."


    He cited Iran as an example of the difficulty of gauging nuclear weapons programs.


    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=2&cid=578&u=/nm/20030309/ts_nm/iran_usa_dc
     
  2. nixon

    nixon Rationale is leaving you

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    It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together. Iran's got, and is in the process of developing medium-range missiles so you can guess what they need. Future blackmailers, I'm telling ya, with North Korea as their idol. Has got to be next, unfortunately we're forced to ease off post-Gulf War II.
     
  3. vonork

    vonork Emperor

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    Why don't Iran do as NK and walk out of the threaty. It's not illigal to develop nuclear weapns.
     
  4. joespaniel

    joespaniel Unescorted Settler

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    Actually, it is. But I doubt the UN will really do anything about it anyway.
     
  5. addiv

    addiv Hero of our time

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    Iran could walk out of the treaty but that would only increase their risk of being attacked, because a withdrawal by Iran would not be tolerated by the U.S. and some other countries as Iran would load a lot of suspicion on them (especially in this post 11 september world of course). I don't think the U.S. would let Iran build nuclear weapons, wether they are in a treaty or not.
     
  6. joespaniel

    joespaniel Unescorted Settler

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    Iran, for example, is a member of the NPT, but there is strong evidence that it is pursuing nuclear weapons technology. Without outside help, Iran is believed to be some years away from its nuclear goals.

    http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/npt/news/941107-366788.htm

    Iraq and North Korea are also signatories to the NPT.

    We have reached a critical juncture. Are we going to allow any and every nation to build it's own nuclear weapons?

    Would it make you feel safer if NK, Iraq and Iran have nukes?

    Also, India and Pakistan never signed. They could concievably sell nukes to anyone they please. Ouch.
     
  7. Xiahou-Dun

    Xiahou-Dun Retired Super Hero

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    If I had to chose..Saudi. Knowing Bush, Iran.:rolleyes:

    (I would let China overrun North Korea, maybe work a deal out swapping Tibet for NK.)
     
  8. Jeratain

    Jeratain On the can.

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    It would be stupid if we went after Iran before North Korea.
     
  9. ellie

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    It would be stupid if we went after Iran before North Korea.
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    you think this war is only the beginning of a number of wars in the near future??

    Ellie
     
  10. Zarn

    Zarn Le Républicain Catholique

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    I hope we can settle done after Iraq. We don't need to be at constant war.
     
  11. Sultan Bhargash

    Sultan Bhargash Trickster Reincarnated

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    nope, constant war it is!

    North Korea, then Iran, then China, then Syria, then Zimbabwe, then Indonesia, then... whoever still ain't got the message...
     

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  12. ellie

    ellie Emperor

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    **finds sultans vision of the future scary**

    how long till the next US election?
    If bush got a taste for it all, and started fighting war after war (not saying he will)
    can he be thrown out?.

    Ministers in the UK goverment have already said they will resign if we go to war outside the UN.

    Ellie
     
  13. Xiahou-Dun

    Xiahou-Dun Retired Super Hero

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    I'm not the President. ;)


    I agree with Zarn, but have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg.
     
  14. addiv

    addiv Hero of our time

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    That is ehh... funny! Though it isn't of course, but still it is.. isn't it?

    edit: referring to Sultan's post
     
  15. sysyphus

    sysyphus So they tell me

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    Makes sense to me.

    Every country posessing nuclear weapons should be invaded.
     
  16. Sultan Bhargash

    Sultan Bhargash Trickster Reincarnated

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  17. sween32

    sween32 The Worthless

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    damn, sultan... where are you getting this stuff?
     
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    Sultan Bhargash Trickster Reincarnated

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    sween32 The Worthless

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    Ben Franklin once said that those who are willing to sacrafice their freedom for safety deserve neither. I agree with him. You cannot turn a free country into an absolute safety house without going againts the freedom that was so bravely fought for. the result is communism with elections.

    i actually want this on a t-shirt....
     

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  20. gael

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    I don't think there will be another war for good while after this one. Not after all the protesting from people on the street and other countrys.

    If Bush attacks another country in the middle east after this one, then hes asking for trouble.
     

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