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So why do people use drugs?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Cutlass, Jan 12, 2011.

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Why do people use recreational drugs?

  1. Because they like to be wasted

    58.0%
  2. Because their friends talk them into it until they're hooked

    34.0%
  3. Self medication

    38.0%
  4. Because they see celebs do it and think it's what the cool people do

    26.0%
  5. Because it's easier to get than booze

    18.0%
  6. Because everyone else is doing it

    24.0%
  7. because the radioactive monkeys told them to

    22.0%
  8. Other - explanation below.

    38.0%
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  1. Disgustipated

    Disgustipated Deity

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    I like to feel good, but the side effects of drugs are too much to bear. Even alcohol I restrict considerably so I don't have a hangover. Pot isn't too bad, but who likes all that smoke? It's unhealthy.

    So nope, I don't do drugs (I don't use caffeine either due to heart palpitation problems) aside from a couple beers every now and then.
     
  2. SchoolzSoKewl

    SchoolzSoKewl Yeah!

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    Most people I know in high school do it to be the coolest kids in town.
    But a lot of smart, nice people do drugs just because they're fun.
    And I think it's totally O.K. to do drugs, the only reason I refrain is because I really don't have time for them. I know they'd be a lot of fun, but it would be like another extra curricular. Plus I wouldn't feel right going around my parents backs.
    Maybe when I'm 18. :)
     
  3. Holycannoli

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    Not with mind altering substances no. I don't like being drunk and never wanted to try any other substance.
     
  4. NovaKart

    NovaKart شێری گەورە

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    I read a drug user memoir once, - more now again - by elizabeth wurtzel. It was really weird, she said she would take cocaine or ritalin and then pluck the hair out of her legs with tweezers for hours and watch porn.
     
  5. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    No.

    Neither of you are worthy of declaring "/thread", and that video certainly isn't worth being declared "/thread".
     
  6. Zardnaar

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    Point is you can have fun and be entertained without drugs. People who get bored easy are usually boring themselves.
     
  7. Mr. Dictator

    Mr. Dictator A Chain-Smoking Fox

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    Depends on the drug, in a lot of ways.

    Pot, Mushrooms, LSD, MDMA...mostly because they're fun.

    You can have fun and be entertained without going to a circus or movie theater, why cut off something as a valid way to enjoy yourself because there are alternatives. That's pretty stupid.
     
  8. Zardnaar

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    You'll have to excuse me as I have met enough stoners and ex junkies to know drugs are bad for you. One of my childhood friends got hooked on junk and it wasn't pretty.

    I don't regard drug use as a valid or legal or safe way to enjoy yourself. An idiotic way to enjoy yourself perhaps (along with alcoholism).
     
  9. civver_764

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    It's very possible to be a responsible drug user. You need to stop judging people. A legal argument holds no weight here either as to whether it's right or wrong.

    There are a lot of activities that are much more dangerous than drug use like mountain climbing, and most extreme sports. Are those idiotic ways to enjoy oneself?
     
  10. DinoCrisisFreak

    DinoCrisisFreak Chieftain

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  11. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    K listen guys, a lot of people who use drugs in high school ARE fools, and a lot of people end up over-indulging and in that sense drug (ab)use can be a very dangerous thing.

    And I won't sit here and attempt to promote drug use, which would be irresponsible, especially since sooo many people are just NOT GOOD at NOT overindulging.. not to mention the problem of addictive personalities.

    But yes, there is a big difference in the alcoholic who gets drunk every day, and a guy enjoying 1 beer after work. Transpose this thinking to other drugs (not all of them), and maybe you'll understand why responsible drug users use drugs.

    Yes, it's obvious why junkies use drugs - they are addicted. There are other types of drug users out there though, much like the people who consume alcohol but aren't alcoholics who beat their wives.
     
  12. Zardnaar

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    Not sure if mountain climbing is more dangerous than drug use espcicially hard drugs like Heroin. Pot isn't as harmless as what alot of people claim as theres plenty of weak willed idiots here who become stoners (as opposed to casual users of it).

    Basically stoners here seem to be.

    1. Useless
    2. Smell bad
    3. Unmotivated
    4. Unreliable

    Basically if its a choice between paying rent and smoking pot guess what to many of them will do. Sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason and we weere out several hundred dollars last year due to one who didn't pay her bills but seemed to be able to afford pot. And she isn't the only one I've met over the years like that. To many of them also repeat the same anti establishment dribble thinging they're intelligent but they are just repeating the same garbage some idiotic friend filled their heads up with.
     
  13. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    Stoners are that by definition ;) Not all people who get high are stoners.
     
  14. Zardnaar

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    Stoner to me is someone adicted to pot. I don't really care if you smoke pot once a month or something like that. To many pot users are weak willed idiots though. Seriously if the highlight of your day is getting high........
     
  15. Bootstoots

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    Well yeah, that's true of anybody who lives only to do any one particular activity, whether that be TV watching, shopping, gambling, or smoking pot. Obviously anybody who lets one particular thing take over their lives has problems and will probably not be a very interesting person. It's just that you have to keep in mind that most pot users aren't the stereotypical do-nothing stoner types. They really do come from all walks of life and do a wide variety of things. I can't really find much in common among people who smoke pot, or people who use most other drugs for that matter.

    There are of course a few drugs that do a much more effective job of destroying lives. This has to do with a number of factors, including administration method, questionable purity, typical dose, etc. To take an example, methamphetamine isn't an especially dangerous drug if you take it the way people take amphetamine (e.g. Adderall), in small well-known doses by mouth. There is a pharmaceutical called Desoxyn that is simply 5 mg of methamphetamine HCl, and it doesn't cause people to lose their teeth and cower in fear of the shadow people. But most meth users take vastly higher doses, of unknown purity, by smoking or insufflation, and hence they destroy themselves very quickly. On the opiate side, heroin is a similar story, with an even more dangerous typical administration method.
     
  16. SKILORD

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    */comes home from class, sits in comfortable chair to relax, rolls a blunt, looks at it for a second, lights it, starts comment.

    The first flaw with the question is that it assumes that there is only one path to drug use.

    Personally I've always been a fan of psychedelic culture, what I was too young at the time to realize was the drug culture, besides, when i was growing up the predominant drug culture in America was organized around cocaine which simply does not lend itself well to the parts of psychedelia that I liked.

    Still, I didn't smoke weed until I was 22, although I had been drinking since 16.

    But in the spirit of that, with my love of psychedelia, I am a big fan of Hunter S. Thompson. Sometimes I watch his interviews, and there is one that comes to mind here. Hunter was asked the same question, why do people take drugs? And he seemed like the PERFECT person to ask, he is best known for going on wild, drug fuelled adventures and then writing about them in as coherent a manner as anyone could ask. So the interviewer asks him, "Why do people take drugs," and Thompson's first reaction is a look of utter confusion, as though he had no idea what the question meant, what the hell sort of a question is that? It's simply too general! Drugs? People drink caffine to stay alert, smoke cigarettes for various reasons, drink for various different reasons, and when you strike out into the territory of illegal drugs then you are doubly encumbered by the wide variety of effects. People who shoot up heroin saw different positives to drugs than people who smoke crack, they are totally different and incompatable communities and cannot be generalized together so easily.

    Hunter, then, starts to rant, talking about his personal different approaches to different drugs, "If the deadline is tomorrow I might do some speed, if a reporter is pissing me off I might smoke a bowl, see, they aren't the same thing, you wouldn't want me to be doing acid right now or I would go crazy, but it has its own separate place."

    Whether you got into uppers when your parents gave you Ritalin or when you did that first line of coke because some stripper talked you into it in the bathroom of a seedy bar, the broad variety of reasons that people do even a single sort of drug cannot be qualified except on a personal level. This is why drug abuse has been such a problem historically speaking.
     
  17. warpus

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    If you were addicted to pot, you wouldn't be doing it once a month.. you'd be doing it every damn day.

    Are people who go out to the pub every once in a while after work weak willed alcoholics, cause that post-work pint might be the highlight of their day?
     
  18. Hygro

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    Pure MDMA then, pure MDMA now...
     
  19. Bootstoots

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    I'm sure the problem is that many things advertised to be "ecstasy" now are not in fact pure MDMA, but instead contain other substances. Nonetheless, the other substances advertised as ecstasy are rarely dangerous. There's one exception: a substance called PMA caused several poisonings, a few of them fatal, in the early 2000s. But in many people's estimation, taking ecstasy is still a decent bet.

    If there's anybody reading this who doesn't get why someone would take MDMA, it causes feelings of profound connection with everyone around you in addition to a stimulant effect and a heightening of tactile sensation. This makes it especially good for raves and the like. I've personally never really been a fan the few times I've had it, but some people swear by the stuff.

    Oh by the way, I'd recommend erowid.org to anyone who's legitimately interested in why people might take drugs and what they do. Its slant is obviously pro-drug legalization, but it's got far and away the best information about drugs on the internet, including extensive experience reports about substances by people who have used any drug you can imagine.
     
  20. Whomp

    Whomp Keep Calm and Carry On Retired Moderator

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    It was legal and pharmaceutical when the SMU kids introduced it at my Pac-10 school. ;)

    Do current ecstasy users know who their chemist is? I would suggest that substitution today is probably a fairly high percentage of MDMA.
     

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