Soldiers charged in Iraq rape-murder case

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Five soldiers charged in Iraq rape-murder case
Mahmoudiya mayor says alleged rape victim was 14

Sunday, July 9, 2006; Posted: 6:32 p.m. EDT (22:32 GMT)

(CNN) -- Four U.S. soldiers in Iraq are charged with participation in the "rape and murder of a young Iraqi woman and three members of her family," the U.S. military said Sunday.

A fifth soldier is accused of dereliction of duty for failing to report the offenses.

All five are charged with conspiring with former Pfc. Steven D. Green to commit the crimes, the military said, in connection with the incident in March in Mahmoudiya, Iraq.

There have been conflicting reports about the alleged rape victim's age. Sunday, Reuters news agency released documents indicating that she was 14.

Reuters said identification cards and death certificates give the victim's date of birth as August 19, 1991.

The mayor of Mahmoudiya confirmed that birth date to CNN.

However, a Justice Department affidavit in the case against Green says investigators estimated victim's age at about 25, while the U.S. military said she was 20.

The U.S. military statement Sunday made clear that officials are aware of the discrepancies and that her age is an important part of the investigation.

Green has been charged in a U.S. civilian court with rape and murder. Last week he pleaded not guilty in federal court in Kentucky.

Prosecutors have said Green shot and killed an Iraqi man, woman and child before raping a young female from the same family and killing her. (Watch leaders disagree on 'American justice' -- 1:24)

A Justice Department affidavit says Green and other soldiers planned to rape a young woman who lived near the checkpoint they manned in Mahmoudiya.

The affidavit says three soldiers allegedly accompanied Green into the house, and another soldier was told to monitor the radio while the assault took place.

The affidavit says Green shot the woman's relatives, including a girl of about 5; raped the young woman; then fatally shot her.

Soldiers are quoted in the affidavit as telling investigators that Green and his companions then set the family's house afire, threw an AK-47 rifle used in the killings into a canal and burned their bloodstained clothing.

Green was honorably discharged from the Army before the incident came to light after being diagnosed with an unspecified personality disorder, according to court papers.

The military charges against the five soldiers were issued Saturday. The military, in its news release, did not name them.

A U.S. defense official told CNN the five soldiers are still on their base in the Mahmoudiya area, have had their weapons taken away, and are being escorted everywhere they go on the base.

Green remains behind bars in Louisville, Kentucky.

The military, in its news release Sunday, wrote that the charges are "merely an accusation. Those accused are presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt."

The statement said the soldiers still on active duty will face an Article 32 investigation, similar to a grand jury hearing in civilian law. The Article 32 proceeding will determine whether there is enough evidence to place them on trial.

Is this a good thing that the soldiers are being charged, or a bad thing that this wasn't picked up earlier?

And a link to the other investigaitons:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5105284.stm
 
:( Not sure what to say other than let's see what the court has to say on this. *shrug* From what the infromation that I've found out from the news and other sources they (the soldiers) appear to be guilty, but I'm sure there is much more evidence floating around in the courtroom than has been reported, so I'm 100% sure as of yet. This will no doubt be a setback for the war effort unfortunately, but these things happen during war.
 
If they are guilty, hang them. But give them a day in court before condemnation.
 
It's good that they're being charged, but I hope their trial goes fairly. In military cases like this, a successful conviction would more or less be a death sentence for the 4 men, and 20 years for the 5th guy. I'd hate for that to happen if these guys are indeed innocent.
 
Dreadnought said:
*shakes head* But why is the guy manning the radio in trouble?

Because he knew of the alleged plot and act as lookout on the radio.
 
These guys deserve their day in court. As in, one day. Then the noose.

Raping a fourteen-year-old girl... holy crap.
 
Since we aren't privy to all the evidence, let's not prejudge this case. Let it go to trial and see what happens. If they are found guilty it will probably mean life in prison since death sentences are rarely awarded in courts martials.
 
lets all run around screaming "why oh why" it is hardly a suprise.
 
I would say shoot them, but the bullet is a soldier's death, and these men are no soldiers. Have them dig their own graves, then bury them alive.

Of course, after due process, blah blah blah....
 
Since their actions are deliberately offending America's ability to pacify the region, maybe they should be locked up in Gitmo.
 
If they are guilty then hang em'

If they are not guilty then don't hang em'

Ya i know that didn't contribute anything
 
This is insane
 
Stylesjl said:
If they are guilty then hang em'

If they are not guilty then don't hang em'

Ya i know that didn't contribute anything
I am impressed that you made me laugh in a thread about rape though :ack:
 
Not under america's laws. They are under military jurisdiction because they are soldiers.
 
warpus said:
They are charged with comitting a crime on Iraqi soil; shouldn't they be tried in an Iraqi court under Iraqi law?
And give the Iraqi government some autonomy and legitimacy? :ack:
 
warpus said:
They are charged with comitting a crime on Iraqi soil; shouldn't they be tried in an Iraqi court under Iraqi law?

[ironical mood]That makes sense. [??]

Then they will probably beheaded for the crimes they committed, even if there isn't enough evidence that they committed those crimes.

But OK who cares. Nowadays it's also in the USA not important anymore that one needs to be guilty before being sentenced, isn't it ??[/ironical mood]
 
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