Spain/inca ua, uu, & ub

[El Caballerion]

Does anyone know what Spain and Inca's unique ability, unique unit(s), and unique building will be?

 

[Louis XXIV]

Spain:
UU: Conquistador
UU: Tercio
UA: I think it's called Seven Cities of Gold. Basically, large bonuses for discovering natural wonders, especially if you're first. I think some extra bonuses for settling next to them
The details might be off.

Inca:
UU: Slinger
UB: Terrace - some have speculated this is actually a tile improvement
UA: Andean Roads. Units ignore terrain penalty for hills, roads on hills (it says tile improvements, so maybe other things too) are free, and roads are half priced everywhere else.

 

[Baleur]

I didnt know the Incas were famous for their continent-spanning ROADS......
Rome i could understand, but... Meh why do i even bother anymore lol

 

[Louis XXIV]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_road_system

Please at least check google before you rant.

3000 square miles is quite comparable to Rome, especially in the mountains and jungles of south America. An Imperial Road system ability was something I'd been pushing for (the other option was having Terraces as their UA, giving them food in hills and mountains).

 

[Beef Hammer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_road_system

Please at least check google before you rant.

3000 square miles is quite comparable to Rome, especially in the mountains and jungles of south America. An Imperial Road system ability was something I'd been pushing for (the other option was having Terraces as their UA, giving them food in hills and mountains).

Hey hey, I learned something today

 

[Louis XXIV]

Yeah, the Aztecs were famous for human sacrifice, the Mayans for Calendars, and the Inca for roads and terraces in the mountains.

Oh and Llamas

 

[AmazonQueen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_road_system

Please at least check google before you rant.

3000 square miles is quite comparable to Rome, especially in the mountains and jungles of south America. An Imperial Road system ability was something I'd been pushing for (the other option was having Terraces as their UA, giving them food in hills and mountains).

Although Incan roads weren't as impressive as Roman roads and many were inherited from earlier cultures in the region. Then again the terrain was much worse than that the Romans had to cope with.

Roman roads are overrated. The Persian Royal Road was the first great highway and of vital importance to the Persian courier service of whom Herodotus wrote —"Neither snow, nor rain, nor heat, nor darkness of night prevents these couriers from completing their designated stages with utmost speed".

 

[Louis XXIV]

Oh, I agree completely there. One thing important to keep in mind is Empires don't function without roads. I think the Persian Royal road is based on an earlier Assyrian one, but that's not a big deal. They used the same courier system as the Inca, though, so there's a neat little comparison there of two Civs entirely isolated (conspiracies aside) that came up with something similar.

Still, a road system through the mountains of the Andes deserves recognition in this game, imo.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Oh, I agree completely there. One thing important to keep in mind is Empires don't function without roads. I think the Persian Royal road is based on an earlier Assyrian one, but that's not a big deal. ]

You may well be right, theres always more for me to learn

[ They used the same courier system as the Inca, though, so there's a neat little comparison there of two Civs entirely isolated (conspiracies aside) that came up with something similar.

Still, a road system through the mountains of the Andes deserves recognition in this game, imo.

I agree. Given their territories consisted mostly of coastal desert, mountains and jungle perhaps the Incan Slinger should get to ignore terrain costs when moving.

For Spain I'll be interested to see how the tercio is handled. A mixed pike and arquebus unit - perhaps a musketman with a bonus against cavalry which probably won't excite many players, a pity for a unit that was so dominant in its era

I tend to feel the Conquistidor should be a GG varient. The Spanish forces that conquered so much of South and Central America weren't remarkable - ragtag mercenaries without the discipline of the armies that Spain was fielding in Europe at the time, but their leaders (although mostly very unpleasant people) were remarkable

 

[Louis XXIV]

I think a Musket with bonus against cavalry would be spectacular. It'll kill the Knight as an effective weapon against you. If you bring a cannon or two (or even Crossbows) you can kill off Longswordsmen (Muskets are solid against them anyway). Plus, they're resourceless. Just a guess, but the Spanish seem comparable to the Ottomans in UU types (Knight or Lancer and Musketman replacements). The trick is to see how they balance against them (which would be perfect historically for a little Hapsburg-Ottoman showdown).

 

[effexop]

One thing about the inca's road system, though, is that they did not have wheels. It's far easier to build a road system for llamas and people on foot than it is for wheeled vehicles, such as the roman roads.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Although I think that made their Imperial system all the more impressive (keeping an empire together where the entire communication system consists of people running back and forth relay style). Then again, I am a sucker for Roman roads. One of my highlights was visiting Pompeii. Random trivia, since the Chariots cut grooves into the road, you can tell how popular a street was simply by looking at how deep the grooves were. Probably the deepest grooves I saw in Pompeii was the street where all the brothels were.

 

[Pouakai]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/colonyofgamers/5247150714/in/set-72157625563948548/

Top right corner. I think that is the Terrace Farm Tile Improvement

 

[Louis XXIV]

Quite possibly. Good catch.

 

[turingmachine]

Spain:
UU: Conquistador
UU: Tercio
UA: I think it's called Seven Cities of Gold. Basically, large bonuses for discovering natural wonders, especially if you're first. I think some extra bonuses for settling next to them
The details might be off.

Inca:
UU: Slinger
UB: Terrace - some have speculated this is actually a tile improvement
UA: Andean Roads. Units ignore terrain penalty for hills, roads on hills (it says tile improvements, so maybe other things too) are free, and roads are half priced everywhere else.

That info is on Wiki but were exactly were the Spanish UU's confirmed? I've seen screenshots with the Incan's but nothing confirming Spain's/

 

[MouseyPounds]

It's probably from news screenshots, such as this one from Gamespy

 

[SammyKhalifa]

The thing that always amazed me about the Inca is that they accomplished all they did without written language. Yeah, that means they were a less-developed civ in some ways, but think of the human imagination, memory, and organizational powers that would require . . .

 

[turboraton]

I didnt know the Incas were famous for their continent-spanning ROADS......
Rome i could understand, but... Meh why do i even bother anymore lol

Now you know, don't forget to thank your beloved Civilization 5 for educating you.

As a Peruvian I can't wait to play as the Incan Empire and to check the language / music. I'm really afraid to be honest, I really LOVE some Civ5 Leader Music and I can only hope that they do a good job with the Incas.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Any chance you speak Quechua?

I'm really looking forward to Pachacuti (and the whole presentation). Of course, the only Peruvian music I know are Pan Flute bands

 

[Huaojozu]

Terrace Farm I would bet is a farm-like improvement that can be build only on hills (even without fresh water). It cant exactly give additional food since farmed hills are the best tiles right now, but I guess it could give 1 gold.

Pure guesses on the other - Tercio is a higher str Pikeman, Conquistador is an even faster Lancer and Slinger is a ranged warrior.