Why? Why hasn't this basic problem been fixed? Why can't they make it so that a majorly outclassed unit simply captures or defeats the opposing unit as if they were embarked?
While we are at it, why do embarked units not get a chance to fight? I can understand a huge hit to strength but why are my paratroopers and infantry dying to barbarian triremes? Can't they defend themselves at all? Heck what about a Gunship? I was trying to explore a little and did not see the trireme that came from nowhere and took him down.
I think you guys are missing the joke. A SWORDSMAN nearly shot down a FIGHTER. What did it grow wings and fly? At least a spearsmen brigade might break the tanks treads or something.
You guys need to stop taking things so literally. This is a game, the units are abstractions. A swordsmen in the tank era is like a group of guerrillas, like in Afghanistan. Not a full strength division, but having some capability.
Its a game with such a broad scope there needs to be a TON of abstraction like this and bringing up stupid things like this just distracts from the real actual issues.
Naval battles are worse. It took my submarine THREE ATTACKS to beat an enemy embarked worker. Huh?
It was pretty funny how quickly this thread went to spearmen vs tank when it's actually about swords vs airplanes.
Maybe those guys can throw their swords a long way?
You guys need to stop taking things so literally. This is a game, the units are abstractions. A swordsmen in the tank era is like a group of guerrillas, like in Afghanistan. Not a full strength division, but having some capability.
Its a game with such a broad scope there needs to be a TON of abstraction like this and bringing up stupid things like this just distracts from the real actual issues.
gpshaw: excellent idea! It is more realistic that you would "capture" a unit. Right now we can only capture settlers and workers, but a totally outclassed unit wouldn't fight back in real life. You wouldn't see a little raft try to fire arrows at a destroyer... more likely they'd just put up their hands or a white flag in surrender.
I mean, whatever happened to prisoners of war??? Maybe they could slowly convert so that they become a member of your empire... or maybe you can sell the useless units back to the civ that you are conquering in a little deal... i dunno... but cool idea.
It happened just a few years ago in the Persian Gulf I think.
Wasn't there an incident where some terrorist/freedomfighter/guerilla types used a motor launch (a very small 4 or 5 man boat) to attack a cruiser/destroyer or whatever it was.
I think you guys are missing the joke. A SWORDSMAN nearly shot down a FIGHTER. What did it grow wings and fly?
Naval battles are worse. It took my submarine THREE ATTACKS to beat an enemy embarked worker. Huh?
It takes 3 attacks to bombard workers on land as well. I had a request from a city state to take care of barbarians and it turned out they were all workers. It took 9 turns for my destroyer to take them out.
Civ 2's firepower and HP system pretty much made this a virtual impossibility. Best combat stat system they've ever had imo.
I also agree that ground units shouldn't be able to hurt aircraft, and modern ship stats are too low.
Actually the fighter got damaged attacking a city (a swordsman was in it); cities may have defenses - I don´t really see a problem.
Naval battles are worse. It took my submarine THREE ATTACKS to beat an enemy embarked worker. Huh?
It wouldn't be easy to torpedo people swimming.