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[Speculation] Indonesia/Majapahit/Srivijaya

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by seancolorado, Mar 16, 2013.

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  1. AessaSH

    AessaSH Warlord

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    Maybe they can find Javanese speakers in Suriname.. It's closer than Indonesia.. :D
    Or just go to the American university that has gamelan.., I think they have someone who able to speak Javanese language..
     
  2. Louis XXIV

    Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil

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    I don't think it'll be Gajah Mada. Every sculpture I have seen has emphasized his weight. His nickname was the "Elephant General." The argument against Raden Wijaya is that he's not wearing his crown in that picture. I don't know enough about Majapahit to say who would be the better choice. I just know that Gajah was a bit on the chunky side and the argument against Raden is fairly weak.
     
  3. AessaSH

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    I know him exactly..
    Because a month ago he started to shape his body in our gym for the sake of this day.. :p

    Well.., the first time I saw the new hint, my brain recognizes it immediately as Gajah Mada..
    Raden Vijaya is a bit more slender and smaller in my mental image.. :D
    But anything is possible..

    A little bit of info.., actually there is no artifact or sculpture of Gajah Mada from his era..
    All of flabby image is come from Muhamad Yamin, Indonesian historian.. He saw a random head sculpture and declare it was Mada's face.. He is also the one who creates that fatty image of Mada.. >__>
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    However, In recent fashion.., modern Indonesian sculptor tends to create Mada's image more muscular and manly..
    And I like it better.. :lol:
    Spoiler :
     
  4. j51

    j51 Blue Star Cadet

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    Yeah, but he still has a fat face in that picture, but that leader picture looks to have thin cheeks.
     
  5. Peasley

    Peasley Warlord

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    I haven't seen any mention of Hayam Wuruk, which is strange. I don't, however, believe that this is him, as most depictions of him include a crown.
     
  6. Syailendra

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    it could be raden wijaya when he is still the regent of maja forest. He won't be wearing a crown by then
     
  7. AessaSH

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    That's why I said anything is possible.. :p

    My greatest wish for this civ is.., please make all units can embark and move over coast immediately..
    Without that.., this civ is unplayable in any true starting point map.. :sad:
     
  8. LoneRebel

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    Why not both? Stocky, muscular men are the manliest of all. :king::lol:
     
  9. BenZL43

    BenZL43 awkward cat

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    Thank you :)

    Wow.. I think you know about that bedil better than me.. I'm not a Javanese myself, I'll ask my friend what does bedil means in Javanese haha..

    WOW! :king:
    If this image is coming from original sources, I can definitely confirm that Indonesian civ is in :')
    -The candi (temple) in the background is definitely Javanese.
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    - The clothes he wear is distinctively from Old Indonesian style

    It can only be Singhasari & the Javanese Kingdom, which Kertanegara might be the leader... or MAJAPAHIT :)

    On the leader, I think we can't rule out the possibility of Hayam Wuruk yet.. since Gajah Mada is technically only a patih (maybe duke in English).

    Nah, the question is just the authenticity of that image :)
    If it's really original, I think we can post in the stickied BNW Information Thread.
     
  10. Camikaze

    Camikaze Administrator Administrator

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    Moderator Action: Indonesia confirmed. Someone please start an 'Indonesia discussion' thread.

    Speculation thread closed.
     
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