Discussion in 'Mafia/NOTW' started by Timsup2nothin, Feb 17, 2020.
Oh yeah I almost did forget to vote.
Unofficial Tally, Page 59
Takhisis (3): Arakhor, Empoof, Synsensa
Arakhor (3): Dolbster, Takhisis, JohannaK
Empoof (2): Visorslash, Montmorency
Sommerswerd (2): Pzelda, LordArgon
Not Voting: Snerk, aimeeandbeatles, RRRaskolnikov, Manasi, Yakostovian, Winston Hughes, Sommerswerd
Dead Starfleet: MaryKB, Zack
Dead Klingons: Csargo
If you guys really think it was Klingon vs. Klingon then lets flip Sommer.
this is the most ive seen lordargon post so hes probably a wolf
Wow, just like last game, people calling me wolfy for posting.
Neither him nor Sommer are with Dolbster. That's a level zero read.
I really don't get the logic behind the tak and empoof votes. You guys think that Sommer was a Klingon, so you instead vote for the people who voted to kill the Klingon? It is just ridiculous.
‘random’ indicates that to you there's no difference between Csargo and Sommerswerd.
Csargo/Arakhor/Sommerswerd as w/w/w is completely viable as things stand.
There was one vote for me and one vote for you which you straight up ignored. You put me in the lead without bothering to explain anything about your vote. That's bandwagonning.
Snerk for inactive and Dolbster for… what, exactly?
Also, Snerk not voting Winston on D1 in his first game after Winston jinxing Liverpool's title run in 2014 is out of character.
Could you talk to me about this?
Both in general and with regards to this game.
Assume I know nothing at all.
Let's start analysing the bandwaggon on me. Arakhor's already taken care of.
You have to tell us how your staying alive helps us find the Klingons.
Are you going to hide behind Zack's posts? You can do better.
I really don't understand what you mean here, it's borderline word salad. You want to test my reads by lynching me?
The question was addressed at you too, Dolbster.
What do you mean by ‘assume’? I saw it in the signups thread, it says that this is the first time you've played this game.
*feck it, can't edit*
re: Empoof and possibly Synsensa hiding behind Zack's words: Zack said that I often/usually bandwaggon as mafia. I vote for Csargo's lynch, he is Klingon, so I am Klingon too?
Re: That Synsensa post on Zack's kill - if Zack was right about Tak or Empoof he would obviously be targeted as a priority, because he would be driving their lynch above any rando townie.
That's a lot of people, and you want to tie yourself with Sommer?
OK, so Argon and Dolbster going after Arakhor, defending Tak and Sommer if I have that right. (Wait, now Argon changed his mind on Sommer?!)
Tak and Arakhor potentially yolo distancing, because I know Tak be that way. Zack wasn't quite right to name Tak a busser; he's more apt to be a strategic distancer than a strategic (as opposed to ad hoc) busser. If Ara scum Tak more likely IMO.
Zelda after everyone but especially Sommer. (Technically, Manasi and Rask interchangable as far as bussing scum - but I'd rule out m/m there if I had to.)
Visor and Empoof not paired, and overall I trust Visor.
Analysis of votes to determine who's scum basically(past, aka vote count analysis), or the generation of wagons to create data to make determinations from. Tak/Csargo voted for eachother yesterday when they could've voted Sommer and made it less likely that yesterday would've been Tak vs Csargo so I don't that they're mafia together (the Csargo/Tak/Sommer world conceded as possible)
Arak's prob maf but I think that regardless.
I should make it clear that I still think that Tak's town
I was voting Sommer yesterday, why would I defend them? I think it is just ridiculous to wagon tak because you think sommer is a wolf. Check if sommer is a wolf first, then get tak if they flip. Tak voted for a wolf, making them more likely to be villager. Don't put the cart before the horse people, if you are think Sommer is a wolf, space them then, it is illogical to do otherwise.
Dolbster, did you think Csargo was a villager yday?
It seems straightforward. Even with Mary self-killing, we have leeway in the lynch. Tackling Zack's strongest reads is a decent choice here because he was entirely on point about Csargo.
Killing Zack if his reads are right: huge gamble, relying on "His reads wouldn't make such a bad night kill." and hoping people vote for someone not on his reads
Killing Zack if his reads are wrong: eats a lynch because we're likely to vote his strongest reads, gives Mafia an extra shot for a victory kill
If Zack's strongest read pre-NK flips Starfleet, then we know a lot more than if we just laissez-faire assume that his reads list is exonerated.
The plan, IIRC, was first Csargo, then you. Dictated by Zack. Csargo gets spaced, klingon. Zack dies overnight. If he didn't die, you'd still be on the chopping block. He did die, and now there's pressure to switch from you. Possibly for good reason, or possibly because it's a good klingon gamble.
Nah, he was a big fat null for most of it.
Zack's twilight reads list. Takh #1.
Mary is cleared, by way of suicide. That leaves Sommer, Empoof and Rask in his FoS range.
Does Mary self-killing change thing or reads? (Aside from losing a player on the town side.)
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