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Discussion in 'Civ4 - Demo Game IV: Citizens' started by vra379971, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. Vandal Warlord

    Vandal Warlord Nazgûl

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    I say yay.
     
  2. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    As the King has been incapacitated I will step in as interum King. I also say Yay to the guidelines posted above.
     
  3. thecommonnate

    thecommonnate Theocrat

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    Very Well then.
     
  4. Lord Civius

    Lord Civius Emperor

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    According to the quorum call here is you Eastates General Assembly:

    Permanent Members-
    King Cyc- Cycles of Arete
    Regent Lord Civius- Clerk of the Realm

    Representatives-
    Vandal Warlord- Principality of Kassite
    Diamondeye- Protectors of the Faith
    thecommonnate- Independents
    Joe Harker- Independents
     
  5. thecommonnate

    thecommonnate Theocrat

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    Clerk of the Realm, there has been discussion of switching some civics, the current generally accepted reform wants are as follows:

    Bureaucracy to Free Speech
    Decentralization to Free Economy
    Paganism to Organized Religion

    Feedback from you is appreciated.
     
  6. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    I agree with TCN that the civic system should be changed, but I disagree with TCN on the following points:
    We should adopt Vassalage, not Free Speech.
    Theocracy should be prioritized over Organized religion.

    I can agree on the shift to Free Economy.
     
  7. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    It seems we are prone to see a Prime Faction election soon.

    We got the Traditionalist party (Bureaucracy, Decentralization, Paganism) Dutchfire
    We got the Burgers party (Free Speech, Free Economy and Organized Religion) TNC
    We got the Militarist Party (Vassalage, Free Economy and Theocracy) Diamond E
     
  8. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Please also sign me up for the Estates Generals Assembly, for both COA and Edorai.
     
  9. thecommonnate

    thecommonnate Theocrat

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    Organized Religion and Theocracy both hold strategic value to me, as we will go to war with Babylon in our future, we must use Theocracy sometime, IMO. However it seems that our interior cities should begin doing some building, over recruiting (excluding coastal cities, which should begin ship building immediately).

    Once we have some builds done, I propose switching to Theocracy, and building up some elite units to finish off Babylon and start our Imperialism adventures.

    However, this could be done completely opposite, begin military buildup now after switching to Theocracy, finishing off Babylon quicker, switching again to Organized Religion and Build up the Continent's economy.

    EDIT: Vassalage would work well with Theocracy if we co-switched, especially if plan #2 (war first, builds after). Free Speech would be a helpful peacetime civic for some extra commerce, not sure if we really need the culture, though.

    I guess it really falls down on when you guys want to head back out to war...
     
  10. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    I suggest we do Theocracy and Vassalage now, that we got the harborsmasters bonus for our navy, before that bonus is obsoleted. We need to keep the forges warm with arms being made, not church bells. We already got a strong lead in economy, now we need some elite forces to make ourselves secure!
     
  11. Vandal Warlord

    Vandal Warlord Nazgûl

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    I support the Millitary Party.
     
  12. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    I support Provolutions suggestion. Theocracy and Vassalage it is.
    The Free Market is up to others to decide, I am niether for or against.
     
  13. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    If we are heading for vassalage and theocracy, I will change the build queues for Edorai right away.

    I support Free Market as part of the package. Slavery should stay.
     
  14. thecommonnate

    thecommonnate Theocrat

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    Vassalage, Slavery, and Theocracy it is, but note that cities should change to military build queues immediately after the revolution.
     
  15. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    Let all write in military build queues then.
     
  16. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    I must object. I am not prone to accept Slavery as our method of labor - why not adopt Caste System instead?

    Also, I would like to remind my collegue Estate Generals that we must maintain order in here. I remind them to adress the Clerk of the Realm before speaking. You as well, Provoshogun. I am glad you are here to share the view of the Warlords with us.
     
  17. Vandal Warlord

    Vandal Warlord Nazgûl

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    Then what to do with Kassite, without Slavery Kassite cannot produce, unless given the Moai Statues. I too am heavily apposed to Slavery in all my games, but Kassite has 1 :hammers:, not even enough to get a single Military Unit, with in 27 turns.
     
  18. Diamondeye

    Diamondeye So Happy I Could Die

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    I would imagine raising workshops on some of the Kassite flatlands would solve this problem. These would be enhanced by running Caste System.

    Also, once again, I would like to remind Vandal Warlord of the rules and customs of this hall. You will adress the Clerk of the Realm before speaking.
     
  19. Vandal Warlord

    Vandal Warlord Nazgûl

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    Thank you Diamondeye, and may I point out I am not the only Dgamer not being formal.

    I would also like to say that Kassite has but one "Flatbead".
     
  20. thecommonnate

    thecommonnate Theocrat

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    Workshops would work, and would be improved with caste system, but we can't keep caste system forever. Vandal also brings up a point about Kassite having one flatbed.

    Other then this though I support switching to Caste System as long as the government has no more use for Slavery.
     

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