Stats and ORBATs: Unit statistics and Order of Battle resources.

[Tanelorn]

Making a historical scenario especially, unit stats and placement are often a major consideration or even a hurdle to overcome.
Over the years I have collected or built refference resources time and again, intending to make scenarios I never finish. These resources get lost, forgotten, sites go down forever and all that.
Time to share.
I will be posting unit statistics and Order of Battle documents on this thread.

 

[Tanelorn]

Here is a collection of WW2 aircraft rating stats from the GDW Europa series, here:
Europa series and articles on the Europa magazine. All information is easily accessible online.
It is a work in progress and a lot is my own original research, so it is what it is.
I will be correcting and completing the document as I go. Any input or feedback is welcome.
Lets start with American produced aircraft. British aircraft will be next.

 

[Tanelorn]

ORDERS OF BATTLE
WARSAW PACT ORDER OF BATTLE 1988 by Mr. Andy Johnson.
NATO ORDER OF BATTLE 1989 V8.6 by Mr. Johnson, updated by Pat Callahan:

90s NATO and WP OOB- What if

My first post, nice to meet you all! I need some advice on my hobby project- scenario for WW3 in late 1990s, where Soviet union and Warsaw Pact somehow survives and does much better economically then irl. So I'm trying to construct OOBs for both sides and while I'm mostly done with NATO, I have s...

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Greek Order Of Battle 1989

I open this thread to drop any information regarding the Greek order of battle in 1989 for Pat Callahan's project "NATO Order of Battle" which can be found in this site http://www.microarmormayhem.com.He has asked for more info on lesser known armies like the Greek. I can provide some information...

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Turkish Military 1989

As many of you know, I've been working with a number of other members of this site (and elsewhere) to develop an accurate OOB/TO&E for NATO at the end of the Cold War. One of the big gaps in the document (one of the last major ones) is the Turkish military. Here's what I have so far. If anyon...

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Links

External links

www.orbat85.nl

Turkish Air Force Order of Battle: 1939 - 1945

Savunma, politika, istihbarat ve diÄer her Åeyin bulanık mantıÄı

www.siyahgribeyaz.com

WorldWar2.ro - Romanian Army in the Second World War

www.worldwar2.ro

 

[Civinator]

This is a very good source for WW 2 OOBs: http://niehorster.org/000_admin/000oob.htm

 

[civ2units]

Another good source for battle stats are British Battles
This site covers most of Britain's major battles during the 17th, 18th and 19th century. Currently I'm using the source for my updated AWI scenario.

I'm planning to use regimental units which can't be rebuild unlimited. Attached are the current unit roster I'm using. Credits going of course to @Fairline, who has drawn the main units some time ago. I just modified them a little bit for making the regimental units looking different.

 

[Tanelorn]

Included stats for British made aircraft. I will add Canadian and Australian made aircraft separately. German planes next.
A good general source: http://www.historyofwar.org/
City population statistics http://www.geoba.se/index.php

 

[Tanelorn]

Dominions 5 mod inspector. Stats and grapics.

Dom5 Mod Inspector

larzm42.github.io

Dominions 5 mods. Stats and grapics.

Dominions Mods -> Modmaker's Guild

 

[Tanelorn]

Included stats for German aircraft. Italian planes next.

 

[Civinator]

Here is another interesting source of OOBs: https://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15040coll6

 

[Tanelorn]

Included stats for Italian and Soviet aircraft. French planes next.

 

[Tanelorn]

Added French, Japanese and Other Nations (Poland, Sweden etc.) aircraft. The Japanese list is good for early war maybe, it needs some work.
Then I will move to ship ratings.

 

[Tanelorn]

Completed the Japenese list the best I could, from the Glory series and online sources. Added some entries to the Germans, Italians and some really obscure ones to the other nations list from vassal scenarios and the like. Those marked with an asterisk are from a derivative board game source but some of the ratings are too generous, I think.

 

[Tanelorn]

Ship ratings for the Royal Navy in WW2, all major classes.
In Civ2 terms, I would half the attack (gunnery) rating of Battleships and double the defence rating of everything. E and F I would make into 1 defence, C and D to 2 and B to 3.
For example, the :

Queen Elizabeth 1942 Jul​

41 BB 5 6-0/6​

would be attack 20, defence 10, move 6 2x against air and I would use the displacement number to calculate hitpoints.
Kriegsmarine next

 

[Tanelorn]

Added the Kriegsmarine ship ratings. Captured ships not included yet. Italian Regia Marina next.

 

[Civinator]

Added the Kriegsmarine ship ratings. Captured ships not included yet. Italian Regia Marina next.

King George VI: 46 A - Bismarck 43 A

 

[Tanelorn]

I am not making up these numbers myself.
10 x 356mm main guns vs 8 x 380mm main guns.
Its one way to look at it. Besides, there's who actually ended up in the drink to consider.

 

[Tanelorn]

Added most of the Italian Regia Marina and the US navy minus their subs and started with the Imperial Japanese navy and small navies.
Also, histotical macrotrends by country, like manufacturing, trade etc by country

U.S. Manufacturing Output 1997-2023

Manufacturing refers to industries belonging to ISIC divisions 15-37. Value added is the net output of a sector after adding up all outputs and subtracting intermediate inputs. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or depletion and degradation of...

www.macrotrends.net

 

[Fairline]

I am not making up these numbers myself.
10 x 356mm main guns vs 8 x 380mm main guns.
Its one way to look at it. Besides, there's who actually ended up in the drink to consider.

KGV's armour scheme was much better than Bismarck, especially at range, and Bismarck was almost entirely reliant on it's superb visual sighting, whereas the RN ships had far better radar gun laying. There's a lot of mythology surrounding Bismarck which wasn't borne out when it came to face Nelson and KGV.

 

[techumseh]

I hate to quibble Fairline, (not actually ) but that was hardly a fair test. Bismark was outnumbered two to one, not counting other RN ships, and couldn't maneuver because its rudder was jammed. And the Nelson was probably better suited to that kind of static slugging match than either of the other two.

 

[Tanelorn]

Soviet Fleets 1988-1989 order of battle including stats
Source:https://russianships.info/eng/