"steer the course of your story by choosing a new civilization to represent your empire" (civ switching)

[bene_legionary]

“In Civilization VII, your strategic decisions shape the unique cultural lineage of your evolving empire. Rule as one of many legendary leaders from throughout history and steer the course of your story by choosing a new civilization to represent your empire in each Age of human advancement.”

Oh, sounds like Humankind.

 

[Noble Zarkon]

Oh, sounds like Humankind.

Really don't like this idea :-(

 

[bbbt]

“In Civilization VII, your strategic decisions shape the unique cultural lineage of your evolving empire. Rule as one of many legendary leaders from throughout history and steer the course of your story by choosing a new civilization to represent your empire in each Age of human advancement.”

Oh, sounds like Humankind.

Lol, what? They can't seriously have gone with the least popular feature of Humankind....

 

[bene_legionary]

It sounds like there are only three eras, so maybe the transition and choice will be more meaningful.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Lol, what? They can't seriously have gone with the least popular feature of Humankind....

Why is the feature unpopular?

 

[Leyrann]

Why is the feature unpopular?

You lose a lot of connection to your civilization.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

You lose a lot of connection to your civilization.

Ah, that I can understand, the immersion part, systematically though, I like it.

Hopefully Civ 7 finds a way to make it work.

 

[Nikolai II]

Lol, what? They can't seriously have gone with the least popular feature of Humankind....

Game's been in development for years, HK's similarity is due to people thinking alike for sure.

 

[Aquila SPQR]

Oh my God, no. This is the most annoying feature of Humankind and I really hope it won't be mandatory, and we'll be able to stick to the good old "one civ through all eras" mode.

 

[Noble Zarkon]

You lose a lot of connection to your civilization.

Potato McWhiskey makes a good point - if it's something like you evolve from England to Britain to the United Kingdom or something like that with related bonuses it could work.

 

[Hawke9]

Oh man I'm really getting worried about the following line from the steam page: "Rule as one of many legendary leaders from throughout history and steer the course of your story by choosing a new civilization to represent your empire in each Age of human advancement."

This was exactly the thing that broke immersion for me in humankind and made me come back to civ every time. In civ, personally, every game felt unique by playing a new civilization and taking it in a new direction, in humankind every game felt the same by just playing a whole bunch of them. I love leading one civilization from antiquity to modern times, building on what I already have, instead of just jumping ship five times a game. People didn't generally favor civ over humankind for no reason, I would be really disappointed if civ decided to copy this gameplay system. The steam page all but confirms it, but i'll wait and see until the gameplay showcase later.

Sorry for the rant folks

 

[Lord Lakely]

The wording makes it seem like you pick a new civilization each Era, which is not buttering my bread rn. I'll wait and see to if it's any good, though.

We don't know how it will be implemented.

It could for instance be that your leader determines your civ's name, the cities that you settle and the logo that you have, while at the start of each era, you pick a skin of sorts.

So say you roll Franklin as the leader and Greece as your first Civ, you could say, still settle American Cities, but your UU and appearance would be modeled after the Greeks for that Era. Then, at the start of the next era, you pick another "skin" so to speak.

I do not know if Civ7 could function that way, but it could allow your civ to become malleable while still maintaining a certain level of immersion.

We will know in 45 minutes whether that's actually the case though.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Oh man I'm really getting worried about the following line from the steam page: "Rule as one of many legendary leaders from throughout history and steer the course of your story by choosing a new civilization to represent your empire in each Age of human advancement."

This was exactly the thing that broke immersion for me in humankind and made me come back to civ every time. In civ, personally, every game felt unique by playing a new civilization and taking it in a new direction, in humankind every game felt the same by just playing a whole bunch of them. I love leading one civilization from antiquity to modern times, building on what I already have, instead of just jumping ship five times a game. People didn't generally favor civ over humankind for no reason, I would be really disappointed if civ decided to copy this gameplay system. The steam page all but confirms it, but i'll wait and see until the gameplay showcase later.

Sorry for the rant folks

You know, the way they describe it, maybe you play 3 different games. So it's not as immersive breaking?

They describe that each Age has it's own mechanics and systems, so maybe you tell three different stories.

 

[Leyrann]

Potato McWhiskey makes a good point - if it's something like you evolve from England to Britain to the United Kingdom or something like that with related bonuses it could work.

So what would be the predecessor of the United States?

What would be the successor of the Hittites or Bablyon?

There are plenty of civilizations, including ones that really should be in, which don't even come close to lasting throughout most of history, even if you're creative.

Then again, I suppose they could perhaps group civs based on cultural/regional similarities. So you can go from Rome to France, Spain, Italy or something like that, but not to China or Kongo.

 

[FishFishFish]

I'm just gonna pray that the changing civs/leaders is just an optional thing that can be disabled.

 

[GeneralZIft]

Folks I think maybe what they're trying to do is some super-create-your-own-Civ game where there's dozens of leaders and bonuses and Civs and you just freestyle everything for an amalgamation

 

[UncivilizedGuy]

Oh man I'm really getting worried about the following line from the steam page: "Rule as one of many legendary leaders from throughout history and steer the course of your story by choosing a new civilization to represent your empire in each Age of human advancement."

This was exactly the thing that broke immersion for me in humankind and made me come back to civ every time. In civ, personally, every game felt unique by playing a new civilization and taking it in a new direction, in humankind every game felt the same by just playing a whole bunch of them. I love leading one civilization from antiquity to modern times, building on what I already have, instead of just jumping ship five times a game. People didn't generally favor civ over humankind for no reason, I would be really disappointed if civ decided to copy this gameplay system. The steam page all but confirms it, but i'll wait and see until the gameplay showcase later.

Sorry for the rant folks

I get what you're saying, but at least this will feel like a completely different game. I hope they do this better than Humankind

 

[Askia Muhammad]

At least the leaders will be locked into their respective historical eras for a change instead of existing throughout history

The wording seems to imply the civs will be locked the leaders remain eternal

 

[Duke William of Normandy]

The wording seems to imply the civs will be locked the leaders remain eternal

That doesn't make sense, though. If you're could switch from, say, Rome to America, you'd get Franklin instead of Augustus since Franklin is confirmed to be in-game.

 

[SupremacyKing2]

We don't know how it will be implemented.

It could for instance be that your leader determines your civ's name, the cities that you settle and the logo that you have, while at the start of each era, you pick a skin of sorts.

So say you roll Franklin as the leader and Greece as your first Civ, you could say, still settle American Cities, but your UU and appearance would be modeled after the Greeks for that Era. Then, at the start of the next era, you pick another "skin" so to speak.

I do not know if Civ7 could function that way, but it could allow your civ to become malleable while still maintaining a certain level of immersion.

We will know in 45 minutes whether that's actually the case though.

I think picking different leaders separate from civs could be really weird though. I mean playing as the Greeks with Napoleon as your leader would feel totally immersion breaking to me. But maybe leaders will be tied to certain eras or certain civs to make things make sense historically.