Stragety for "Fall of Rome" scenario

[Phoenix II]

I am trying to go throught the scenarios. I am stuck aith the Fall of Rome scenario. I've player as Huns, three times and as Celts, currently on second try. I've played as monarch then dropped to Regent. no luck with each one.

Does anyone have a stragety for getting through this scenario? any suggestions on civilization to play? For ego reasons,I really don't want to drop below Regent level of difficulty.

Help

 

[microbe]

What's your problem?

 

[Phoenix II]

I can't seem to kill off both Western and Eastern Rome in enough time to control the victory points. Playing as Celts, I accumulate units on the border so that I can take the 3or 4 roman cities on the island. I try to have enough warloads to do the job. I could be taking too much time by waiting for the warloads. Maybe I should try to utilize the pillagers to do the job?

 

[microbe]

Originally posted by Phoenix II
I can't seem to kill off both Western and Eastern Rome in enough time to control the victory points.

You should ally with other barbs/civs to do the job. While you attack western Rome, make alliance with whatever in the east (e.g., Visigoth) to take down eastern Rome.

I only played as Visigoth and started attack very late (almost turn 90), but Celts took down Western just in time.

I think Pillagers can do the job easily too. Rome is so corrupted that as soon as you beat all its existing units, pretty much it's all yours.

 

[lbhhh]

I played as Celts and your initial strategy for conquering England is good, but do not wait for warlords. Pillagers will do the trick just fine. Then you have to rush on towards northern Italy there are lots of VP locations there. Lastly take on the byzantines. BTW be extremely careful in your dealings with the other barbarian civs, keep them allied with you. I was careless and had to fight some toughs wars against them.

 

[waylander]

Originally posted by Phoenix II
I am trying to go throught the scenarios. I am stuck aith the Fall of Rome scenario. I've player as Huns, three times and as Celts, currently on second try. I've played as monarch then dropped to Regent. no luck with each one.

Does anyone have a stragety for getting through this scenario? any suggestions on civilization to play? For ego reasons,I really don't want to drop below Regent level of difficulty.

Help

Phoenix II I also play my games on Monarch level and had trouble with the Fall of Rome scenario. The first couple of times I took out Western Rome but couldn't kill the eastern half before they won on points. My first successful game was with the Persians (or whoever that is down in the bottom right corner). They build up fast enough that you can win fairly easily.

Once I knew I could beat the scenario I tried again with the Celts I think. The main thing to remember is that one of the Romes is going to win on about turn 110-120 if you haven't kill both by then. So you really need to start your war with the first half about turn 60 or maybe 70 at the latest. Kill the first half as quickly as possible. Snap up a few victory sites but don't worry if the other barbarians take a bunch. It will just make it easier to kill them later. Regroup you army and then push for the other half of Rome.

One thing to be wary of is building or holding too many cities. The more cities you have the easier it is to lose 8. I usually build a nice core and then only hold or build new cities on victory point locations. When you need to fight the other barbarians most have already lost 3 or 4 cities so it's that much easier to take them out.

The key is starting the war early on Rome and not having to fight the other barbarians until the Romes are out of the way.

 

[somateria]

Originally posted by Phoenix II
For ego reasons,I really don't want to drop below Regent level of difficulty.

Cooperation/diplomacy among the barbarian tribes is crucial.
Oddly, this scenario may actually be harder on the lower levels. The AI barbarian tribes expand so slowly on lower levels that they're not much help in knockling out the Romans, so you have to shoulder the load yourself. Also, rapid expansion on higher levels leads to AI civs with lots of size 1 cities, which can be easily destroyed to reach the 8 city limit without attacking any well-defended, core cities. Maybe stick with monarch and focus on getting alliances against the Romans.

It's more fun when everyone pillages together.

P.S. Just be sure to be the one to get the 8th city . . .

 

[DBear]

I'm sorry, but this scenario totally sucks. The AI will NOT attack Rome for ANYTHING.

 

[Ville]

I'm currently playing FoR as Sassanids. It's easy to take out Byzantines. Then Settle all of Byzantines area. Build lots of HCs and Trebuchets or if you want, you can steal Barbarism from barbarians and trade/research to Warlords. Free Marauders are good when fighting vs. Western Rome. Take out their African cities and head to Spain or Italy (which ever you want) You get much more VPs than your enemies.

 

[danoh]

Here is what worked for me on Regent as the Celts.

The first 50 turns or so I settled several new cities in Ireland and researched techs so I could build warlords and the warlord wonder. Once I had these techs I shut off science and just earned cash. Any additional useful techs I bought from the A.I.

Step two was to use the warlords to conquer Britain. Then I had another short pause to settle several new towns in Britain.

Step three was to invade Western Europe and settle a town at Calais so galleys could transport troops to the continent without risk. This would be the last town I added, and all others would be pillaged. By this point Ireland and the northern cities in Britain were cranking out the warlords. The cities in southern England gradually came on line after building temples and barracks.

I did not worry about the higher V.P towns in northern Italy, but just whacked the first Western Rome towns I could and pillaged them all. This main army then moved via Northern Italy to the Balkans to start chewing on Eastern Rome. I formed only one alliance (with Byzantines) and they gradually started taking cities from Eastern Rome. MAKE SURE you and not they take the 8th Eastern Rome city, as whoever does this gets the V.P.s for conquering the rest of the empire.

While the Eastern Rome campaign was going on, the Celts were building so many warlords I started a secondary attack across Germany and into Poland and the Ukraine. You get V.P.s for conquering the Barbs also. I believe when I achieved victory only the Byzantines, Huns and Sassnids were left.

The above comment about Barb Civs on lower levels not doing squat against Rome was my experience. Except for the Byzantines they took a few towns from each other but nothing from Rome.

 

[Phoenix II]

Thanks for the help on this scenario! Several things I got -1. play this scenario at a higher difficulty so that the AI can/will assist in attacking Eastern/Western Rome 2. Most seem to like the Celts 3.With Celts use pillagers to clear out Britian try to do it in the first 60-70 moves and 4. try to form alliances 5. build up to warloads and warload wonder and then shut off science.
I'll let you know how it works.