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Superheavy element found in nature

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by Genocidicbunny, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. Genocidicbunny

    Genocidicbunny Bug squasher

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    http://arxivblog.com/?p=385

    This is the coolest piece of news ive heard all week. Correct me if im wrong, but this is the first stable element with a g-shell. If so, as the guy said, this is opening some pretty big gates.
     
  2. Perfection

    Perfection The Great Head.

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    I wouldn't claim it to be definitive yet, but a cool prospect.
     
  3. Truronian

    Truronian Quite unfamiliar Retired Moderator

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    Pretty cool.
     
  4. Gigaz

    Gigaz civoholic

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    I've checked it on wikipedia. Elements with an electron on the first g-shell are really called superactinoids.
    Damn cool!
     
  5. MrCynical

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    If this is true (and that's a major if, as I haven't come across this on any major news site yet), it's a big discovery. I think it was element 126 they reckoned would be most stable in that region of the periodic table? Conceivably 122 is on the lower end of the island of stability.
     
  6. ArneHD

    ArneHD Just a little bit mad

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    Damn interesting, that is true, but I'm wondering what they will call a mineral that includes the atom.
     
  7. dutchfire

    dutchfire Moderator Moderator

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    I'm a bit sceptical, since google only mentions some shaddy blogs when searching, but if it's true, it's a huge discovery.
     
  8. lovett

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    So, what would this be useful for?
     
  9. Truronian

    Truronian Quite unfamiliar Retired Moderator

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    Not very much, given the quantities.
     
  10. lovett

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    Well theoretically?

    Say decent amounts of the stuff were manufacturable. What then?

    Are they useful for something more then ammunition?
     
  11. Genocidicbunny

    Genocidicbunny Bug squasher

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    First they would have to figure its physical properties. So little of it has been collected that its impossible to experiment on it.
     
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    I thought that Mendeleev's periodical table was all about predicting the properties of elements according to their place in it?
     
  13. Eran of Arcadia

    Eran of Arcadia Stormin' Mormon Retired Moderator

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    Poor journalistic style trying too hard to pass scientists as human beings capable of feelings and emotions.
     
  15. Eran of Arcadia

    Eran of Arcadia Stormin' Mormon Retired Moderator

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    I am sure that scientists are human beings capable of feelings and emotions, and that they have pals and buddies. I am also sure that the set of "scientific associate" and "pal and/or buddy" is not mutually inclusive for all scientists.

    Wait, what?
     
  16. Rik Meleet

    Rik Meleet Top predator Retired Moderator

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    Sounds exciting. :)
    However, I don't think it'll change science or our lives; Unbibium is just too rare to do anything with; even if it exists naturally.
    That is - unless we locate a large source, on earth or outside the earth.
     
  17. uppi

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    1) The periodic table only makes predictions for the chemical properties and not the physical properties.

    2) It makes only predictions. Nature doesn't have to obey the predictions we make. Experiments would have to be made to see, if these predictions actually work.

    3) According to the predictions the element in question would be the first discovered one to have electrons in the "g-subshell" (l=4) in its ground state. It is hard to extrapolate from the periodic table, because there would be no other element like it.

    4) There are quite some elements that have a slightly different electron configuration than the one predicted by the periodic table and therefore they behave differently than one might expect.
     
  18. AL_DA_GREAT

    AL_DA_GREAT amour absinthe révolution

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    A g shell!?!?! I had trouble learning d.
     
  19. IamJohn

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    I really doubt this, all elements in this category have extremely small half lives, they are stable in the way that the elements last milliseconds, not nanoseconds. ;)
     
  20. ArneHD

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    Except for the magical number.
     

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