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Discussion in 'Arts & Entertainment' started by EgonSpengler, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. EgonSpengler

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    After seeing Watchmen over the weekend, I've been musing on a top-10 live-action superhero shows that I've seen. I decided to do it by season, rather than by show, and this is a "1st draft", so to speak.

    1. Daredevil, season 1
    2. Jessica Jones, season 1
    3. Watchmen, season 1
    4. Daredevil, season 2
    5. Legion, season 1
    6. The Boys, season 1
    7. ...

    Hm. Not sure what the last 4 ought to be. Or rather, there are a lot to consider, and I'd have to narrow it down. I think these 6 are the ones I'd call "great", and worth recommending to people who don't normally watch superhero stuff.
     
  2. Timsup2nothin

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    I've never watched it, but I'm guessing that some of the early seasons of Arrow must have been pretty good for it to have spawned the entire Berlantiverse. I liked The Flash a lot early on. Not sure if it qualifies as superhero, but I was totally captivated by iZombie and watched the entire series at like a season a week pace.

    Daredevil season one is definitely a strong number one candidate though.
     
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    Yeah, I need to go back and look at The CW shows, season by season. Good call on iZombie. I loved that show.

    I also can't decide whether to judge a show in its historical context, against its contemporaries, or not. Like trying to decide whether Babe Ruth was better than Barry Bonds; they were almost playing a different game. I still have fond memories of Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman and Bill Bixby's The Incredible Hulk, but I haven't seen either one since I was a little kid, and one suspects that they may not hold up in comparison with more modern works. :lol: Although, Bixby's Hulk was much more of a character drama and relied less on the superhero shenanigans. I found it almost unbearably melancholic when I was little, every episode ending with "David" Banner leaving behind whatever new friends he'd made and walking off alone into the sunset. Still, it was a television show in an era when television was considered minor league. I am kind of writing off Nicholas Hammond's Spider-Man, George Reeves' The Adventures of Superman and The Six Million Dollar Man, without bothering to revisit them, even though I liked all of them as a kid. I'm not sure about Adam West's Batman or Lois and Clark.
     
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    Early Arrow was very good, and rather daring for network TV. It was a hero willing to kill. Absolutely none of the wrist-wringing you're used to with superheroes who cause chaos and irreparable harm but then you have to sit through a ten-minute monologue about why it's wrong to kill.

    Then... Well, then the CW Effect happened. It became hyper-focused on character drama, much to its detriment. Or, I suppose, its benefit, since it seems to have paid off for them.
     
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    Adam West's Batman is great, but from a practical standpoint it is a totally different genre. Looking back through the lens of The Dark Knight and the whole bleak and grim Gotham presentation the idea of Batman as camp comedy is pretty hard to grasp. Truly an inspired adaptation.
     
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    You might like season 2 of Daredevil, if you haven't seen it yet. The season loosely adapts two of the classic Frank Miller-era stories, one being the confrontation between Daredevil and The Punisher.

    Berlanti's shows do have something of a "thumbprint", which is probably why few people watch all of them.

    There are a handful of superhero comedies, but the only other attempt at camp was Shumacher's Batman movies, which basically nobody likes. I suppose Tim Burton's movies could also be viewed as campy, especially the second one, and if someone wanted to call Jim Carrey's The Mask campy, I wouldn't argue too strenuously. But among the television shows, Batman kind of stands alone. At least he has his Bat-shark-repellent. :lol:

     
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    I've seen all the Netflix shows, even the horrible Jessica Jones. :mischief:
     
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    Hey, dem's fightin' woids, ya mope. :p
     
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    Okay, I feel bad now. Joel Schumacher just passed away.
     
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    So, my kids are in middle school now, and both are interested in track and cross country. Neither of them has what you might call an efficient stride, and we've been working to get arms and legs moving together and reduce the flailing around. Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman is our example of how not to run. My kids enjoy the TV show, but we all find the incredible physical awkwardness hard to take.
     
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    Well, she had all that hair, and that costume, and those... heels.
     
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    The '70s episode of Agents of SHIELD was a hoot.



    I'm beginning to wonder if this season could be a clever tie-in to the Scarlet Witch series and Dr. Strange 2.

    Spoiler :
    "Chastity McBride" :lol:
     
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    (Little bit of language.)



    The season 2 premier is September 4. The first 3 episodes will post together, then 1 ep per week for the following 5 weeks.
     
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    They should pay you. I haven't had any interest in AoF for several seasons, and I might watch that just because you.
     
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    This season's been a lot better than the last couple.
     
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    Dammit. Missed AoS again. 10pm on a Wednesday is such an awkward time for me.
     
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    It took an abruptly dark turn. I'm not sure what to think of it. I hope the rest of the season isn't going to be like this, it isn't really what I watch this show for. (I did look for the preview of next week's episode on YouTube, and it looks like they're returning to the silliness, so that's good.)

    Spoiler :
    Mack's parents being killed was enough of a downer, I didn't really need to know about Daisy being tortured. At least they kept it entirely offscreen. Even hearing her scream from the next room would've made me really unhappy with this show.

    So Coulson is like a Time Lord now, and just regenerates every time he dies? :lol: I guess we'll see.

    I was surprised to not see Reed Diamond, who had played Whitehall/Reinhardt in seasons past.
     
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    I'll streem it sometime this weekend.
     
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    I haven't seen the BoP movie. But have heard nothing good of it. So probably for the best.

    https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/birds-of-prey-2.html
     
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