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Supreme Court of the United States

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by onejayhawk, Nov 25, 2016.

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  1. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    I find it extremely unlikely the GOP couldn't find a cranky reactionary hateful Italian with a deep-seated loathing of civil rights and basic human decency to ram through congress, so I feel you statement is a bit suspect.
     
  2. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    They are aiming for a Scalia and hoping for a Rehnquist as a worst case scenario. If they aim for a Rehnquist, the worst case scenario is a Souter or Stevens.
     
  3. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    If they wanted another Scalia, I think Coney Barrett was closer. The cranky, hateful and Italian are not necessary after all.

    Even Stephan Colbert knows that Kavanaugh is no Souter. Or, was it Jimmy Kimmel?

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  4. JollyRoger

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    Thanks for agreeing with me
     
  5. onejayhawk

    onejayhawk Afflicted with reason

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    So, you think Souter was a bad choice too. Cool.

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    I know you are but what am I?

    classic
     
  7. JollyRoger

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    Souter was a great choice overall, but not what the GOP was hoping for.
     
  8. onejayhawk

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    So, it comes full circle. They seem to be attempting another Rhenquist and have avoided another Souter.

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  9. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Turns out he's so radical that he would overturn even unanimous previous decisions. So long as doing so protected a traitorous president, at any rate.


    Kavanaugh: Watergate tapes decision may have been wrong
    By MARK SHERMAN

    https://www.apnews.com/3ea406469d34...campaign=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true
     
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    Moderator Action: As a reminder, CFC decorum expects more than a single-word response to other people's posts.
     
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    I think it'd have been interesting. Anyone else likely to kick off in the next couple?
     
  13. onejayhawk

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    There are those that say Clarence Thomas will serve til he dies. There are others that say he might choose to step aside when a like-minded person will get nominated. The only one generating persistent rumors was Kennedy.

    Other than that, Ginsburg is 85 and Breyer is 79. Other than Thomas, everyone else is at least 10 years younger.

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  14. JollyRoger

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    Actually, Thomas is seen as the most likely to step down voluntarily at this point. He may have this summer if Kennedy didn't. Ginsburg and Breyer aren't stepping down with Trump in office.
     
  15. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    But they might die. That's not so predictable. So people who consider the Constitution as written an enemy of the state may get an unassailable majority for a generation.
     
  16. JollyRoger

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    It is a worry. Scalia for Gorsuch was about an even trade. Kavanaugh moves the center of the court from Kennedy to Roberts. If Trump gets to replace any of the four to the left of Roberts, it will be a disaster.
     
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    Stephen... pronounced "Stee-Vin"

    Stephan is this guy:


    Anyway, Ginsberg is dying on the shield. I'd guess that Thomas is too. She's got to be thoroughly enjoying being 1 of 3 women on the SCOTUS and I seriously doubt she'd give that up. He has so many people hating on him throughout his career that I imagine he's probably relishing staying on the bench to the bitter end just to spite them.
     
  18. onejayhawk

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    We have one from each side. Replacing Thomas with a thinker would be interesting.

    Serious question: Excluding gender issues, how far to the right will Kavanaugh move the Court? Away from LGBT, Kennedy seems pretty conservative.

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  19. Martin Alvito

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    Thomas will be there until death or health does not permit. The difference in prestige between a sitting justice and a retired one is immense. One does not give that stature away lightly. To put it very bluntly, O'Connor must have deeply loved her husband. What Souter was thinking remains an enigma to us all, but there's no credible evidence that Thomas is thinking along those lines.

    By any reasonable estimation, Kavanaugh creates the right's reply to the Warren coterie (Warren, Black, Douglas, Brennan, and a string of justices ending in Marshall) that met weekly to functionally pre-empt the weekly meeting of all nine justices, distribute opinions and make actual policy. The Court will look radically different with Roberts as the fulcrum unless he decides that he has an obligation to shift towards the center to preserve the Court's legitimacy, which he has shown limited support for in the past.
     
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    May not be her choice. She's already a few years over the average life expectancy of women in the US so she could keel over at any moment. Could be tomorrow, could be ten years from now.
     
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