Probably becuase the Solicitor General's office got involved in the case while she was there.
I can look at both at the same time.
Supreme Court upholds 5-year mandatory sentence for gun possession
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yep, chose one, the gun or the joint, but don't combine them.
JR,
I get the irony of the topic and all, but if you can answer me straight for a while, from my reading of your posts you are a very big 2A advocate (meaning you have a very liberal <non political, general definition> interpretation of it, you believe that people essentially have a right to own guns, uninfringed), so where do you draw the line? I'm asking personally and legally. Meaning, where do you legally see the line is and, personally, where do you think it should be?
This is, perhaps, a good topic, for elsewhere. Give me a crack at it and I'll try and whip up something tonight.
I get the irony of the topic and all, but if you can answer me straight for a while, from my reading of your posts you are a very big 2A advocate (meaning you have a very liberal <non political, general definition> interpretation of it, you believe that people essentially have a right to own guns, uninfringed), so where do you draw the line? I'm asking personally and legally. Meaning, where do you legally see the line is and, personally, where do you think it should be?
This is, perhaps, a good topic, for elsewhere. Give me a crack at it and I'll try and whip up something tonight.
Like Congress has?
Berzerker
Deity
so if you got a pot plant in the yard - whether you know it or not - and own a gun, yer screwed. But we dont put pot smokers in prison 
land of the free
The liberals and conservatives have killed the Constitution, RIP
The "crime" is possession of a drug, and that includes using the wife's prescription. Apparently it aint a crime yet to have someone else's prescription in the medicine cabinet (if they live there too), but it is illegal to use it. Think...about it...
Maybe we shouldn't punish people based on your powers of prophecy
land of the free
The liberals and conservatives have killed the Constitution, RIP
The "crime" is possession of a drug, and that includes using the wife's prescription. Apparently it aint a crime yet to have someone else's prescription in the medicine cabinet (if they live there too), but it is illegal to use it. Think...about it...
Maybe we shouldn't punish people based on your powers of prophecy
So, wait. If I sell non-violently sell cocaine and happen to have a firearm (perhaps even legally) on my person then I'm automatically liable for an additional five years on top of whatever draconian penalties I get for selling the coke?
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
You know, I wonder what is the logic behind this ruling... yes, I understand that this law, in theory, should deter criminals from bringing a gun to whatever dark dealings going on in the underworld, but why just guns? Why not go all the way and make switchblades and maces illegal as well? After all, what kind of normal citizen "just happens" to bring along a weapon of any kind when committing a crime?
Don't know. Although this law makes sense, it gives me a funny feeling in the stomach that I can't quite put my finger around.
Don't know. Although this law makes sense, it gives me a funny feeling in the stomach that I can't quite put my finger around.
Berzerker
Deity
That was a compromise between the slave states that wanted FULL representation for their slave population and free states who didn't want slaves to count at all... Free blacks counted just like everyone else.
Berzerker
Deity
Yup, and if applied "equally" it counts for all gun possession by anyone with illegal drugs - like even Rush Limbaugh. I wonder if that would count if yer bodyguard is armed and you got the drugs...
People who dont wanna be robbed?
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
Robbers don't want to be robbed?
While I'm fundamentally against licensing, if you are going to have it, then you need to cut down on restrictions. No denial of a license because you are behind on your chiild support or other such nonsense.
No criminal enhancements for possessing a gun during a crime. If you are going to have an enhancement, at least have the decency to make it for bad act + bad intent with the gun itself and make a jury find beyond a reasonable doubt on both bad act and bad intent.
No stripping of 2nd Amendment rights once someone has served their time in prison.
Less outright bans - if you need a super-license for a super-gun, better that than an outright ban.
If you have sensitive places such as campuses where you don't want just anyone have a gun, allow for a super-license so that at least some of the very most responsible can carry.
In reality, I guess I can go for some restrictions, but please do not tell me that Scalia wrote an originalist masterpiece when he wrote Heller, especially when he joins 8-0 decisions like this.
If you have any other
It can if you're black and the cops and prosecutors are dickish enough.
shoplifting with a gun is not shoplifting, it's robbery
Seon
Not An Evil Liar
...what kind of shoplifting?
Not of you do not use the gun to threaten anyone.
Would it make a difference if you actually shoplifted (secretly took out merchandise) without displaying the gun, but carrying it concealed on your person?
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Officer: "Why whats this?" *removes gun from robbers belt*
Criminal: "Thats nothing sir, honest."
Officer: "Oh? So you're saying that you had no intention of using this, regardless what happened?"
Criminal: "Of course not governor."
Officer: "..."
Criminal: "Its take your gun to work day!"
Criminal: "Thats nothing sir, honest."
Officer: "Oh? So you're saying that you had no intention of using this, regardless what happened?"
Criminal: "Of course not governor."
Officer: "..."
Criminal: "Its take your gun to work day!"
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