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Chieftain
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Can someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how l can team up with other empire(s) when it comes time for battle?:scout:
 
Use MPP's
 
MPP's ?? probably should have said that lm new to the game and the civ world. Just got the game the other day.
 
Once you have the requisite technological advances, you can forge a military alliance with another Civ against a third. You contact them, select the Civ you wish to ally against, and make the offer. You may be required to contribute a lot of money to the enterprise, to convince them to join with you.

Upon getting such an alliance, you and they will immediately declare war on the third Civ (there is no option not to; the alliance is a declaration of war) and the alliance is expected to last at least 20 turns. If you make peace with your enemy before the alliance expires, it will cost you diplomatically.

A Mutual Protection Pact can be bargained for later on. An MPP is universal; if anyone attacks you, your MPP ally automatically declares war against the person that attacked you. And vice versa.

Now this doesn't count for declarations of war. If you have MPP with England, and then declare war on Russia, when Russia's turn comes and they attack one of your units or cities, England then declares war on Russia. If both you and Russia had MPPs with England, who ever conducts the first attack gets to lose the MPP. (In an earlier version of the game, such an MPP would cancel itself out until some one ended the MPP, but I think this was fixed.)

Even though this declaration of war is automatic, if an MPP is broken, expect diplomatic penalties.

What kinds of diplomatic penalties?

Others start disliking you.
They demand even more unreasonable exchanges than normal.
They may refuse to deal with you altogether.
They may declare war on you, or walk all over your territory, which causes you to try to kick them out, and then they just get pissed and declare on you.

Hope I've helped.
 
In order to get a military alliance with another civ, you must first have discovered the tecg "Writing" and then establish an embassy in that civ's capitol. You can do this by double clicking on the star icon in your own capital city. Once you have an embassy, with another civ, the option to get a military alliance will appear in diplomatic negotiations with that civilization.

In order to get a Mutual Protection Pact (MPP) with another civ, you must have discovered the tech "Nationalism." After this tech is discovered, the option to form a MPP will appear in negotiations with all other civs. Since signing MPPs usually results in you get caught in wars between AI civs, I recommend using military alliances. :)
 
Originally posted by TheDS
Now this doesn't count for declarations of war. If you have MPP with England, and then declare war on Russia, when Russia's turn comes and they attack one of your units or cities, England then declares war on Russia.

Is this true? I didn't think my MPP ally, England, had to declare war on Russia it it was ME who attacked Russia first. Wouldn't the MPP pact have a function only if Russia was the aggressor?
 
Nope. I use it all the time to bang around the first or secnd place civ. I'll sign MPPs with everyone exept the target civ. I'll declare war and move a weak obsolete unit next to one of thier cities. The AI attacks it and then everyone else jumps on board and attacks the target civ.
In real life it would be like Nazi Germany signing MPPs with everyone and then attacking poland. The minute a polish soldier kills a german soldier the whole world declares war on poland.

And welcome to the forum MP5 :)
 
If I was a relatively larger than the other civilization of the game I sign MPP with only one of the closest civs. I get in good with the person by giving them money, tech, etc. I make sure they get powerful as well. Its like its us against the world. I don't like the cascading violence though. Usually the beginning of games are very quiet and peaceful. Once someone starts a conflict it usually ends up in a domino effect, everyone begins betraying one another and forming alliances against someone else.
 
Man, I must have spent 4 days playing this level I made. Its funny, I havent played a game where the time just seems to melt away, like it does when im playing Civ3. Was late for work today cause when I started playing it was 10:30pm, and when I finished it was 4:00 am. Had to work at 8. Over slept. :)
 
Moderation in all things. :) Luck for me I've got my wife to remind me when it is time to go to sleep. And I remind her when she is playing.
 
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