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Tales of the Shutdown

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lexicus, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Lexicus

    Lexicus Warlord

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    Curious about any members' experiences with the ongoing federal government shutdown. I just returned to DC after my long vacation in New Jersey and didn't see much difference between this and a normal day. I have heard of some issues with staffing at airports, and apparently downtown DC is absolutely dead, but I'm interested in hearing whether other CFC'ers have been unable to do things or have had trouble doing things because of the shutdown.
    One concrete thing: my girlfriend applied for US citizenship right before Christmas and her application is in limbo indefinitely.
     
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  2. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    It wasn't a problem, but when I took my girl to the airport there was no question that things were different. There hasn't been a low enough "threat level" to leave the car inspection point at the parking garage unmanned in fifteen years of dropping her off and picking her up at least once a year. They usually don't actually inspect, there's just a TSA guy hanging out waving cars through, or I guess inspecting one in a hundred or something. Under "heightened threats" they make everyone roll down the window so they can tell you to move along, and they look in the windows. This was the first time that there was no one out there at all. I could have driven into the parking structure with a missile launcher and had a perfect vantage point to bring down a departing airliner.
     
  3. Lexicus

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    I heard someone say they read a news story about someone bringing a gun onto a flight past TSA security but I don't know what the source for that story was.
     
  4. Zkribbler

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    As far as I can tell, operations at the embassy in Manila and the consulate in Cebu City are unaffected.

    I understand that if the shutdown is prolonged, income tax refunds will be delayed.

    The US is the only government which closes down. Before this it's always been because the US's unique debt limit has caused it to run out of money, This time, the reason is to create political chaos to use as a bargaining chip.
     
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    I saw that story on CNN. It doesn't appear to have been caused by overwork.
     
  6. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Another drone in the hive mind

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    I think it's kind of amusing that as soon as manpower tightened up a bit the TSA withdrew from manning that post. Seems to indicate that they knew all along that having it manned really wasn't accomplishing anything. I think it was day two of the shutdown when I took her to the airport.
     
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  7. hobbsyoyo

    hobbsyoyo https://thespacecadetblog.com/

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    NASA is shut down which is beginning to cause problems with some of our NASA programs. Nothing major at this point but any decisions that have to go through them or are awaiting their input are on hold.
     
  8. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    It is getting a bit annoying with the CFTC and USDA. While the CFTC is putting out regular reports, for non-essentials they are largely unresponsive. USDA is starting to get to people. First off, the Agriculture Marketing Service people that work in the Exchange building are still coming to work every day. They made plenty of jokes about how they were being volunteers at first, but they got mad once they missed their first paycheck. Plus, USDA isn't putting out the crop or export reports which is really putting a damper on trading, especially when combined with the on-again off-again trade war with China. If the USDA shutdown goes on much longer the ag markets are going to be getting really nervous because although their are non-government reports they can use, the USDA reports are based on actual reported data as opposed to best guesses and public info.
     
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    It's amusing that Trump's base is rural people and his policies hurt them more than just about anyone else. But hey, he made a speech today where he said we need to keep immigrants out, except the ones that work the farms. If this keeps up, there may not be a lot of farms around for them to work. :lol:
     
  10. Owen Glyndwr

    Owen Glyndwr La Femme Moderne

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    I was in Portland visiting family for the early stages of the shutdown. Both my uncle and aunt work for the federal government (iirc Fish and Wildlife and BLM respectively) and they were both behaving similarly to that robot medic from that Futurama bit that was parodying MASH (in an episode that was parodying Starship Troopers): 15 seconds of gruesome "this is really bad," followed by 2 minutes of jovial riffing on how bizarre and ridiculous the whole situation is. That was before they started missing paychecks though, so I have no idea what they're like now.

    Here in Chicago I haven't noticed much change. All the parks nearby are city-owned and the Uni is private, so nothing has stopped or altered in my day-to-day.
     
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  11. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    Republican policies have primarily harmed the white working families the most since Reagan was elected. They have always been the primary intended target of Republican policies.

    They don't learn.
     
  12. civvver

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    I haven't noticed any differences but the parks by us are all metro or state parks and I haven't done any travelling.
     
  13. Lexicus

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    I mean it seems like poor people of color are the biggest targets of the Republicans but I certainly don't disagree that they are targeting anyone poor regardless of race.

    A coworker of mine said that while paying her credit card bill for the last four weeks, she saw all over the bank website "Are you a federal employee on furlough?" so I'd guess one effect of the shutdown is that at least some federal employees are getting by on payday loans.
     
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    I hope the government reimburses them for their interest paid. Payday loans have horrible rates. So bad they are illegal in many states.
     
  15. Cutlass

    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    I think there's an awful lot you're missing behind the racism.

    Now I don't mean to minimize the racism, or the very real harm it does to a very large number of people.

    That said, the racism isn't the end. The racism is a means to the end. The end is the extermination of the American middle class. The end is the Final Solution for the extermination of the American Dream. The end is to take all of those working families who have a decent standard of living and reduce them to poverty.

    And most of those people are white.

    The Republican Party today does not have a policy which does not, in whole or in part, exist for the purpose of lowering the standard of living of people who work for a living, and their families, and transferring that money to Wall St. When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton replied, “I rob banks because that's where the money is.” Republicans rob the, mostly white, American middle class, because that's where the money is. You just can't steal enough from the poor to make it really worthwhile.

    But they need to use the poor, and they need to use minorities, as a way to misdirect attention from their real activities. Now the poor and minorities take a lot of damage in the process. But that's a lot more in the way of collateral damage than targeted damage.
     
  16. yung.carl.jung

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    fully agreed. even scarier: what if this has already happened, what if the disease has actually broken out already, but we are in a state of incubation right now: no symptons, none at all, everything seems fine, but it's already contagious. it's already in you, growing, waiting to break out, and when it does break out it'll be too late.
     
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    I don't think it's really about the money. You can't steal that much money from the poor but you can make them grovel and acknowledge their betters. That's what it's really all about.
     
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    Cutlass The Man Who Wasn't There.

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    But the middle does have money. Maybe not that much per person. But 250million Americans add up to a lot of money that can be siphoned off.
     
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    The middle has money, but more importantly when the money is taken away they will grovel too.
     
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    Now that the US government is using shutdown as a deliberate tactic rather than as a consequence of it seems less likely that good people will want to work fro the government.
     

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